Vacant Horizon

I don't know why he can't give the extra content to the owners of the owners of the DVD and CD. I don't know if the Blu-ray version is worth it when I already own about 60% of the recordings on CD.

very good point. take a cue from wilco...make it available on the website. that's the whole point of the web.

Well, some people care about how releases sound. I have found that most first generation cds sound terrible. And some things, such as On The Beach, for example were out of print until a couple of years ago.

of course people care about sound. BUT, waiting for blueray is just an excuse.

You know, if it were $45, I'd do the Allentown date for sure, since I"ll be in eastern PA visiting my family after a long weekend trip catching Wilco in Wilmington. But I paid around $75 to see him last summer, and it was an incredibly disappointing show. I don't know if he was half-assing it because it was a really small market, or if he was having an off night, but it was the worst of the five or six of his shows I've seen. I'll think about it, but unless I'm absolutely in love with this album, I'll probably skip it.

i saw him in 97. it was utterly ridiculous how bad it was. there is no reason anyone should pay money to see him. i was mad about paying $30 back then. saw him open for the dead about 5 years ago and he was even worse. he doesn't sing and he just plays a chord here and there on the piano. such a scam.

I can't believe I've been listening to Neil Young for over twenty years. I love Neil Young......but why would I want to get this? Its such a confused project. I would love a single disk of the material that is not already available, but I can't see the point in shelling out for the rest of the stuff I already own. I've got Massey Hall, I've got Filmore, I've got 60% of the other songs aswell.

 

Another issue I never understood was Neil's insistance that 'sound matter's' and that the sound quality must be the highest standard. That fine if I was listening to Pink Floyd, but Neil Young sounds just as good on a battered slab of Vinyl or a old, twenty year old cassette of 'On The Beach'. Not fussed about remastered recordings when it comes to Neil Young.

 

Still, got to love the old guy. It's good that he's still around and doing it his way I suppose.

great points. especially about sound matters. it would be so great if neil did this the way springsteen and dylan have done it. one set of all unreleased tracks.

Whohooo! I have two chances to see him this summer!!!

why why why is anybody paying over $30 to see dylan. it's just ridiculous. he's a legend, but live is terrible. springsteen is coming this sunday. cheapest tic is 95 bucks before the sodomy of surcharges. i'm going down and i'm gonna get in for $20. and at least it will be a listenable show!

http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/c...ves-box-21-yea/

 

review of archives vol 1. i guess advanced copies are coming out. leak soon please! re-reading shakey, so this will be fun to check out, even though it wont be spectacular.

what's ironic about this whole set is that neil has always said the archives are gonna be everything. well, it's obviously not everything. half of the studio tracks are not there and there's gotta be some more live stuff from that era. what ever. the other thing is that the blueray bonus is 'getting new material' when it's available. don't they already have it all? i swear, neil made a deal with java and blueray and waited till the hd war was over to release this.

http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/c...ves-box-21-yea/

review of archives vol 1. i guess advanced copies are coming out. leak soon please! re-reading shakey, so this will be fun to check out, even though it wont be spectacular.

It's so smooth man!

"Hi, I'm Hollywood Steve."

LOVE Yacht Rock...doobies, the dan, loggins/messina...so smooth man!

Invisible Republic is not about Dylan. it is an interesting bookl but not the place to get biographical info. Listen to A-man..he knows all.....

 

A better series of books is called Bob Dylan Performer, which talks about his recorded performances...all of them. But I would find a good bio and start there.

 

LouieB

sweet! can't wait to get started.

I got mine for cost at $350, but I replaced the tires with kevlar ones, upping the full cost of the bike to $440. You can find fixies on Craigslist for anywhere between $150 and a go-zillion dollars. There are quality new ones (Surly Steamroller, Bianchi Pista, Redline 925) for between $475 and $800ish.

thanks for the info!

BTW, no offense to the original poster personally, but the current popular use of "sick" is making me ill. I would rank it up there with phrases NOT to be used like "loves me some."

classic message board bullshit. why do i keep coming back?!

no offense, but when you say 'no offense' you're probably being offensive.

These threads may help you out:

 

Bob Dylan Bio's/Books, help me!

 

A link to a "rock book" thread.

thank you A-man

There are a number of great comments and viewpoints on this thread. Thanks for sharing, but I think ultimately it comes down to how you experience it. Your musical tastes are built and honed, but they're still viewed through experience of the here and now, and filtered through your emotions or frame of reference. Some "classic" albums lose their perception as such over time. Removed from the time or popularity of a genre and sub-genre, they're striipped of their relelvance and the music doesn't stand on its own. Great is the rediscovered classic, whose depth, message, recording technique, or overall theme stands on its own regardless of time and place. Often your first listening to anything is elevated or doomed based on where you're at -- physically and emotionally --upon listening to it. Who suggested it and what you think of that person can ruin it for you.

 

The best, most recent example I can find of this is SBS. In the situation I first listened to it, it was a great experience and is an album I cherish. It rekindled my enjoyment of Wilco and affected other music I've listened to since (more indirectly rather than direct influence from that album, if that makes any sense). In another circumstance, I might have said, "meh."

 

Is it a classic album? I dunno. But through the prism of those first moments, it sure looks like one.

i'm that way with AGIB. the other albums do not do it for me the way AGIB does it. i first heard online with their cool old timey radio player. so great!

interesting topic

 

for me, and i guess this is blasphemy, but Sgt. Pepper falls into this category

 

i like it OK, but to hear it spoken of in hallowed and mystical tones ... picked by rolling stone as the greatest album ever ...

 

to me, it's got two flat-out classics -- she's leaving home and a day in the life

 

but the greatest album ever? with fixing a hole? benefit of mr. kite? within you without you? lovely rita? when i'm 64? that's a LOT of filler for the greatest album ever

 

if i'm listening to the beatles -- which comes hard for me these days for some reason -- i would much rather listen to the white album, revolver, abby road, rubber soul or some of the super early stuff

 

i just don't get Sgt. Pepper

to me it isn't a total classic. i could care less about good morning, mr. kite, and with in you with out you. the reason i think it has become such a classic is because it was the ultimate crowd pleasing album...it pleased the jazz fans, the new rock fans, the mods, the beats, the old folks, the young folks, musicals, folk music...for generations. it's like, everything great about any of the great genres of 'pop' music since it's inception. now, that doesn't mean i listen to it all the time. i don't. i think that is the fate of most of the classics...we treasure them, but maybe don't listen to them much. at least after we've memorized every damn detail:)

as an aside, i was listening to an archive episode of The Sound of Young American and they had on some editor of a book about everything that is over-rated. the first two things he said that were over rated were Wilco and Sgt. Pepper.

Keep listening to it is a problem for me. Do I suddenly get it after 100 listens because I have that magical epiphany? Or does it just become so familiar to my ears that I become comfortable with it and confuse that comfort level with a true understanding and love of the work? For me repetition is not the key. Repetition has allowed me to know the lyrics to many many Bon Jovi and Def Lepard songs without ever owning a single album by either band, and it

i've read chronicles. reading it was like one long dylan song, totally amazing. i need to read it again. i wondered what was considered the best biography of dylan. any suggestions? how about his novel?

I ride a fixie, and I'm about as far as you can get from a hipster. I ride it with a brake. The advantages for me are that it's really light, I can go as fast as I want, and I love the added control over snow and ice; brakes don't work as well in slushy weather, the last thing I want to do is need to stop with brakes while coasting over a patch of ice.

 

I bought it off a hipster who thought his bike was stolen (turns out he left it in a friend's garage when he was drunk one night). He built a neat-o replacement bike he didn't need, and sold it to me for cost. I love nerding it up on some cool kid's ride, but mostly I find it to be a bike that does everything I need and nothing more.

well, i ain't no hipster either. too old and too damn busy, but, a fixie sounds really cool. how much are they? in my town, the kids go from bar to bar and wear scarves around their necks. i'm happy to see any type of counter culture that's not violent.

sometimes the album can take you to that context immediately. sometimes i don't like the way that feels, hence my 'not getting' some classic albums. classic rock takes me straight to the rec center in dazed and confused. horses, on the other hand, takes me to utter urban decay. don't get it. trout makes me sick to my stomach and pet sounds is just too damn cute. also, i think YHF is a bit too over-rated. a good experiment, but a little too much experimenting. case in point, the ends of reservations and ashes.

pretty sure it doesn't get any better than that one.

of course the song is great, but the lyrics just on paper are pretty bad.

I was hoping you could review each album as well as provide some in-depth analysis regarding the production of them.

too tired. love the new avatar.

here in atlanta, the hipsters have taken to riding over-priced ten speed bikes. this happening any where else? fascinating!

Just checked out Lost Crowes. good, good stuff. it just blows my mind when artists make an album, shelve it, then move on to another project. how do you do that!

I agree with Joss Ackland. (Come on, it's not every day you can type something like that)

 

 

I eventually buy the stuff I really like and the stuff I don't, well, I don't waste money on it.

well said. the record companies are experiencing a wake up call. most of the shit people download they would not buy in the first place. however, they might download something on a whim and actually dig it and go buy it, resulting in an otherwise unintentional purchase.

there are no independent stores in chattanooga.

did that giant used store close? i forget the name. they had all these ratings for 'how used' their cds were.

I was born a little north of Boston, but have lived almost my whole life in Atlanta. Most of my friends that I used to go see the ABB with called the them "the brothers". I think I did too, back then (the '90s Warren & Dicky era). Now I call them the Allmans. Maybe I'm becoming more northern.

 

Northerners refer to Widespread Panic as Panic? Interesting. I guess that makes more sense than just calling them Widespread, which is how I most often hear people refer to them. That's sort of like referring to the Dead as Grateful.

i always forget you're in atlanta:) up north we called WSP 'widespread'. down here they call them 'panic'. the dead are the dead