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It has finally become a McCartney thread ! It feels so good.

I think he pisses people off because he plays music with monkeys, talks to astronauts during live performances or rides a bike on the Red Square (all seen on one of his DVD's). Those are the reasons I can understand. What I do not understand is when people insult him for dying his hair or because he writes songs for children, or because he married whomever, or because he likes tea. I mean, give him a break. As for the self editing… It's true, of course. But most of the time, even in the crappies songs he wrote there's one redeeming bass link or a ridiculously good melodic idea to make the tran

I disagree that John being dead helps his legacy. It used to be very true but it changed for at least three reasons. 1/ Paul started to make very strong music again since Flaming Pie. 2/ With time, the weakness of John's solo records, apart from the first singles and the first two albums, has become quite obvious to everyone. I mean, Walls & Bridges ??!!?? 3/ Paul still talks. It's been almost thirty years since John had his last say about the Beatles, who did what etc. With time, Paul's point of view has become the "official" truth.

Yet I remember John being quoted saying he resented the fact Paul did too much experiment on his songs, namely Strawberry Fields which he thought would have been better if more straightforward. My impression is Paul wanted to add stuff to the other's music, but wanted them to do as he told them on his own stuff. That's where he was a bit contradictory. Urging them to be a "band" and welcome his ideas on one part, but using them as sidemen on the other. The fact is he certainly had good reasons to act that way, at least musically, since all the Beatles output done in the years he dominated the

Things change. I'm 39. When I was younger, up until maybe the mid-90's, everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY thought Lennon was far superior in every aspect (music, lyrics, attitude, solo carreer etc.). Then it started to evolve and change. But it's a fact that 15 years ago, Ram was completely unknown except to maccamaniacs. Even All Things Must Pass was a largely forgotten album. What I mean is that it's no surprise some people still react as if they HAVE to plead McCartney's cause after all the bashing he got in those days. I remember reading an article in one of the most important french rock ma

I'll be very interested to know how many songs will have been cited on all our lists !! (I can sense this sentence is not correct english, sorry about that. But even if it's not, it sure must be amusing word for word french grammar translated in english. Have fun, people !)

I really don't get all this hate towards I'll fight, by far the best song on (the album) for my taste. I mean you guys talk about it as if it was the Yellow Submarine of (the album). It's absurd. To me, most songs on this disc could be part of other albums (BBN on AGIB, Deeper Down on YHF, Country Disappeared on SBS, You Never Know on ATMP etc.) but I'll Fight is the only one that could fit perfectly on any Wilco album to this day, thus being in a way the quintessential Wilco song : melodic, easy on the ear, slightly countryish but marvelously pop, melancholic and bouncy at the same time. Just

1/ Jesus etc. 2/ Remember the Mountain Bed 3/ Hummingbird 4/ I’ll Fight 5/ Someday Soon 6/ How to Fight Loneliness 7/ Black Eye 8/ When the Roses Bloom Again 9/ Either Way 10/ New Madrid 11/ Summerteeth 12/ I’m the Man Who Loves You 13/ Forget the Flowers 14/ Please Tell My Brother 15/ Handshake Drugs 16 / Deeper Down 17/ Ashes of American Flag 18/ Company in My Back 19/ She’s A Jar 20/ Radio King I finally decided that Jeff had to sing lead. You need to have clear rules to be able to sleep at night.

Well, what about "Listen Joe", on 'Another Fine Day" ?

Mike, does Jeff have to sing lead on the song ? I mean, Listen Joe ????? And frankly, I feel bad about doing this a mere few days before we all have a chance to listen to the Seven Worlds Collide album, in which I bet we'll get a few more contenders for the list. I mean, Let's do this right, indeed !

Maybe it was posted before elswhere, but there's even a George H. song called "I don't care anymore". And THIS, I'd like to know if the band is aware of.

It's a song called "The New World" by a band called X. And I may be wrong, but it doesn't sound like Wilco to my ears

What is "You and I" ? I must have missed that one…

This list is fun. Lists are always fun. Myself, I like the Laurie & John album. And Down by the Old Mainstream.

True. Sky Blue Sky and Ruling Class are amazing songs, too. I just hope this process is not a sign of diminishing inspiration but, on the contrary, like in Springsteen's case, the sign that Jeff now masters his craft even better than before.

Obviously, Jeff's writing process leads him to listen to old tapes full of old ideas and demos and refine them. We know for sure that at least LNGCA (Let's Hear it for r'n'r), Sky Blue Sky (Lullabies for rafters and beams) and Ruling Class (All my Life) have been written this way in recent years. I'm not sure it is reassuring to know he tends to rely more and more on older stuff rather than writing completely new material

guys, guys, guys

Someone knows who sings what on the album ?

The album is OK, I guess. But if the Raconteurs are no more the band that Jack White uses to express his poppier side, what's the use

http://www.myspace.com/snakecrosscrown there's also a link for the album somewhere on bolachasgratis, july 2007.

Don't know if it's been discussed here yet. If it has already, cool, please redirect me to the thread, I'd love to read the board's impressions about THIS : Cotton Teeth by this band The Snake the Cross the Crown is an unbelievable record, the first time I listen to an album that is clearly "following" Wilco's path and turning its influence into something else than an avant garde clich

To me all the SBS bonus tracks so far have just proved that Wilco are absolute masters of quality control. In my opinion, the two best outtakes - thanks I Get, One True Vine

yes, we Europe people are very tired of all these US only tracks. The same thing happened to me recently with the Amazon bonus tracks of the Gary Louris solo record. We are just not ALLOWED to buy them in ANY FORMAT. And now it happens with a Wilco song ! All american help will be very much welcome. Thanks.

Very true. But then, McCartney also released this song 10 years ago on "Flaming Pie". It was called "Souvenir" and he sang it masterfully. Remember it ?

No, nothing like Autumn Defense, it's not that kind of "mellow". And no, there's nothing like horns and female back up singers, thank god. You can relax