Songs from AGIB?

[napoleon]

Here's the best version of early Spiders that I have.

 

http://www.sendspace.com/file/4c2yq5

 

jesus christ why didn't they leave it like that? that songs so perfect that way.

[skip]

why didn't they leave it like that?

 

Stirratt said it sound too much like U2.... After hearing the version posted by Kalle (with the bass more pronounced) I can sort of see (hear) it. In the older versions that I've heard, the bass wasn't as upfront.

[thermocaster]

mmmm... we'll never know when songs were actually written...but YHF was recorded in 2000 and early 2001. I recall going to my local record store in the summer of 2001 (yes... my five year old (soon to be six) was a few months old at that time) and I heard that the then new Wilco record was delayed (i.e., the Reprise fiasco happened). I'd imagine that JT and the band kept writing and working on songs throughout all that - especially after Bennett left in the summer of 2001.

 

I saw Spiders performed in Bloomington, IN about two weeks before YHF was released (spring 2002). It sounded nothing like the krautrock version we now know. JT's guitar was drenched in reverb. Aside form Spiders, I don't recall hearing any AGIB songs (solo or w/ the band) before then. I could be mistaken.

 

Out of curiosity, where in Bloomington did they play? I'm there now, and I was there about a year before that show.

[Kalle]

Yeah I know that version is super good. I agree with John on the U2 comparison, and really if that version was on AGIB it would have stuck out like a sore thumb.

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Out of curiosity, where in Bloomington did they play? I'm there now, and I was there about a year before that show.

 

The Axis Ballroom.

[magusmachine]

I actually think the old kidsmoke is inferior... even boring.

 

AGIB Spiders though, I maintain as excellent driving music.

[Kalle]

I actually think the old kidsmoke is inferior... even boring.

 

AGIB Spiders though, I maintain as excellent driving music.

 

I totally agree on that! I just got my G2 (means I can drive bymyself now) and I play Spiders everyday when I leave school. Pumping basssss.

[napoleon]

if that version was on AGIB it would have stuck out like a sore thumb.

 

and the album version doesn't?

[Gobias Industries]

and the album version doesn't?

 

No. Imagine Hell is Chrome into Arena Rock Spiders. No, it just doesn't work.

 

That's like playing Mozar's Surprise Symphony then playing a Hindemith Viola Concerto right after. It sounds too weird.

[So Long]

No. Imagine Hell is Chrome into Arena Rock Spiders. No, it just doesn't work.

 

That's like playing Mozar's Surprise Symphony then playing a Hindemith Viola Concerto right after. It sounds too weird.

 

Or for us rock n' roll fans...Beach Boy's Good Vibrations followed by Van Halen's Jump.

[lordgoat]

I love how AGIB runs together... the main one that sticks out is Late Greats, i always play the first 5-6tracks straight through as i love knowing what song is next and how it builds...

 

I also love when the guitar comes in on At Least That... If could hear one song again for the first time it would be this one.

[magusmachine]

I love how AGIB runs together... the main one that sticks out is Late Greats, i always play the first 5-6tracks straight through as i love knowing what song is next and how it builds...

 

I also love when the guitar comes in on At Least That... If could hear one song again for the first time it would be this one.

 

Seriously. ALTWYS has my favorite guitar playing ever. Complete and utter perfection. Jeff is a great guitar player, I prefer him to Nels so far..

[WaronWar]

and the album version doesn't?

 

It does not stick out. It has the same concept of being minimal within its landscape which relates to the rest of the songs on the album.

 

Besides the song rocks with an amazing Neu!-like beat ("Hallo Gallos"), the riff, and the fragmented gutiar solos. Who could ask for more?

[IamJacksName]

I have question for people to discuss (I had this same question in a conversation with someone who once was Wilco but now is not): As a result of AGIB being written far prior to its recording, is the album actually creative?

 

Disclaimer: AGIB is my favorite album.

 

Also, I have heard most of the songs on the new album were written a while ago too? Is it true?

 

I'd say that A Ghost is Born is an incredibly creative album, and I'd bet that a lot of that creativity happened in the studio, no matter that the songs were written a good bit before the recording. A lot of the AGIB songs changed pretty drastically on the album. Spiders, of course, is different, and Muzzle of Bees also got a nearly-complete re-working (I still can't decide which version I prefer). Hummingbird had only been played by Jeff solo, I think, and the version on The Wilco Book shows that it changed a lot in the studio. Handshake Drugs was released on the YHF EP, went through a different live iteration, was changed for the album, and now sounds even more different. Theologians really came to life in the studio; the early versions of it were completely barebones. The Late Greats was sped up and became the jaunty little number it is now.

 

And while I don't know too much about these new songs, I'm pretty sure Walken was the first new song we heard, and that was in the latter half of 05. It's pretty much the same as it was then. On and On and On was the next one I heard, and it seems to be pretty much the same too. Some of the other songs debuted over the past year, and they don't seem to be too changed up to me.