yermom Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 What I meant was - i know the turntable hooks up directly to the computer via USB and can be used without a receiver, unlike other turntables. butcan it also connect to a reciever or amp the old fashioned way? seems like i read somewhere that these things can also connect to the aux input on a receiver without a grounding wire if your new reciever did not have phono inputs.sorry for the confusion. It doesn't hook up via USB and I'm too much of a dunce to know how to explain how it does operate, so here is a pic that might answer your question...all it has in the back are those red and white plugs and the electric plug. Hopefully this is helpful! ps...That's my Wilco book bag that I used to prop up the record player for my pic...gotta represent! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plasticeyeball Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 What I meant was - i know the turntable hooks up directly to the computer via USB and can be used without a receiver, unlike other turntables. butcan it also connect to a reciever or amp the old fashioned way? seems like i read somewhere that these things can also connect to the aux input on a receiver without a grounding wire if your new reciever did not have phono inputs.sorry for the confusion. looks like it comes with regular phono jacks and a phono jack to 1/8" mini plug adapter which you would plug into the mic input of your sound board. It looks like you could use it a regular turntable which brings me to the question of can you just get an adapter and plug any turntable into your computer? I have cature software so why not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stooka Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Great!!!! Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
W(TF) Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 I researched this quite a bit last year and finally decided on a PRO-JECT Expression II made by Sumiko. I could not be happier with my decision. Sumiko audio I've seen the debut III for $200. Debut III Glad you mentioned it....this is a very nice deck and from everything I've heard it's a real bargain...cartridge included (and pre-mounted I believe). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
W(TF) Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 By the way, JUST in case someone here has $17K to blow on a turntable, I would recommend flying to Boulder to audition the Teres Audio 460. (that doesn't include any tonearms, btw...lol. The Schroeder arms in this pic must be at least $4K each. Add a couple of Koetsu cartridges and you are in the range of a high end luxury car, or a d/p on a house. argh) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yermom Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 By the way, JUST in case someone here has $17K to blow on a turntable, I would recommend flying to Boulder to audition the Teres Audio 460. It certainly is purty! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Picador Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 It doesn't hook up via USB and I'm too much of a dunce to know how to explain how it does operate, so here is a pic that might answer your question...all it has in the back are those red and white plugs and the electric plug. Hopefully this is helpful!ps...That's my Wilco book bag that I used to prop up the record player for my pic...gotta represent! You're so cute. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stooka Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I researched this quite a bit last year and finally decided on a PRO-JECT Expression II made by Sumiko. I could not be happier with my decision. Sumiko audio I've seen the debut III for $200. Debut III what do you think are the best advantages for going with the Expression II rather than the Debut III?...............other than getting one more I, of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
W(TF) Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 what do you think are the best advantages for going with the Expression II rather than the Debut III?...............other than getting one more I, of course. (chiming in) Probably a better precision machined main bearing/spindle, and a heavier platter - these make a bigger impact on the sound than you might imagine. They reduce all sorts of distortions typically caused by micro-vibrations as well as speed variations. Also you get an uprated tonearm and cartridge...seems like an excellent deal, again. (Pro-ject keep costs down by manufacturing in Eastern Europe) But just keep it "in context" with your other equipment; i.e. the $300 -> 500 jump may be "lost" on your cheap system. If that's the case, you might want to consider, for example, putting that $200 extra into a better phono preamp. (maybe something like the Bellari) A good resource in general is needledoctor.com. musicdirect and acousticsounds are also good, they all give pretty decent support, and not just for audiophiles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 My father just bought this one and likes it quite a bit. I may buy the same one, except that I'd prefer belt drive. I believe this one has a built-in preamp so you can hook it up to your computer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 [quote name='Sarchi' date='Jul 10 2007, 10:42 AM' post='910957} Vinyl is a bloody expensive hobby. /audiophile rant mode offIt is only expensive if you insist on buying new vinyl and having audiophile equipment. Before the recent feeding frenzy on vinyl, used records in good shape were cheap and plentiful. They still can be and you can listen to them on reasonably inexpensive (used) components and have a great time with them. Don't let anyone convince you you have to spend gobs on money on this stuff. People have been listening on moderately priced systems and getting good results for years. They have also been (which is what I have done) buying used LPs at record stores, resale shops, and yard sales and gotten interesting listening material for not so much money. It is all part of the fun, but if you insist on buying brand new audiophile copies of LPs or go on the internet and pay exorbitant amounts of money for what are considered rare LPs, yea, it is expensive. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cwnorman Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Glad you mentioned it....this is a very nice deck and from everything I've heard it's a real bargain...cartridge included (and pre-mounted I believe). Interestingly enough, i bought the audiophile issue of Sound and Vison Mag (use to be Stereo Review) Sound and Visionyesterday. They test three tables, low, mid, and stupid.....Debut III was the low and got an A+! Probably a better precision machined main bearing/spindle, and a heavier platter - these make a bigger impact on the sound than you might imagine. They reduce all sorts of distortions typically caused by micro-vibrations as well as speed variations. Also you get an uprated tonearm and cartridge...seems like an excellent deal, again. (Pro-ject keep costs down by manufacturing in Eastern Europe) But just keep it "in context" with your other equipment; i.e. the $300 -> 500 jump may be "lost" on your cheap system. If that's the case, you might want to consider, for example, putting that $200 extra into a better phono preamp. (maybe something like the Bellari) Right on. I was all about the Expression due to the carbon fiber tone arm...unheard of in tables at this range. I can not tell you how happy I've been with this rig (need to upgrade my cartridge though. Agreed on the equiptment issue. I've got a Rotel 1062 integrated stereoamplifier, which has a great phonostage, but the table would have been a waste without it. FYI...Pro Ject makes a really great Tube phono pre-amp... One other thing that is keey is a speed box. While lifting the platter everytime you want to play a 7" isn't that big of a deal, its a lot easier to flip a switch. Later I'll try to find the letter from the editor on-line, pretty much exactly what I like about vinyl. Will Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stooka Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Thanks to everyone for the advice!! PRRRRRRRFECT! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smokestack Joe Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 how do i prevent my vinyl from warping? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 how do i prevent my vinyl from warping?Keep them away from heat and out of sunlight and store them vertically/upright. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smokestack Joe Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 ok thanks, i have them vertically upright against the wall, not in sunlight or direct heat, i should be ok. thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
squarewave Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Don't keep them against the wall... Try not to have more than a couple dozen "leaning" on each other... Also, put them back in the sleeves when you are done with them, leaving them on the 'table let's dust settle in the grooves (especially if you have copied the audiophile move of removing the dust cover). Graphite brushes for dry-brushing are a MUST (seek out an AQ or similar).... Don't use the Recoton fluid and the velvet thing with the big hollow wooden handle... NEVER use fluid... If you are a hardcore (borderline certifiable) alien audiophile.... Seek out a shop (or maybe your local library) and see if they have a proper record cleaning machine. VPI is a good one. Having your vinyl vacuumed on a good machine will get rid of a lot of those pops and clicks... NEVER read Stereophile, Absolute Sound, etc.... Your love of music will be devolved into a never-ending quest for something which you feel you do not have... Get something good, get a good amp, and a good pair of speakers... and then build a collection of vinyl. BTW, here's a story for you treasure seekers...I went to an estate sale to pick up a bed frame for the guest bedroom, and scored a ProJect/One table w/ a Grado cartridge for $2.50... Yes, it's direct drive, and has a fairly crappy tonearm... But for $2.50, I have something usable to listen to until I find the next treasure... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stickman Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 So I have a TEAC P-988 and it is running ever so slightly faster than it should...I can only tell this because of the raise in pitch. Anybody know what can be done? Do I find myself in the market for a new table? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big Perm Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I have an older Technics belt drive, I love it. To digitize I use thisiMic 2with thisAdapter w/ground It works fine for me, I also use Soundtrack Pro to make adjustments after the fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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