Jeff Tweedy's 74th Beard Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 can anyone tell me who is playing along with jeff on this wonderful version of one of my all time favorite songwriters interpreting my other all time favorite songwriter??? thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rwrkb Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 is the song title in the witness protection program? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wendy Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Judging by the thread title, probably Simple Twist of Fate. Tweedy singing Dylan. "I'm Not There" soundtrack. http://forums.viachicago.org/index.php?sho...p;hl=Twist+Fate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rwrkb Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 that was my first thought, i just didn't see the reason for the all the mystery Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Steve Brule Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 it's in the album liner notes, if you actually bought it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RubenRemus Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Glenn and David Mansfield (from the Rolling Thunder Revue) I can't remember all the tracks that Nels plays on, need to check the liner notes for that... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Tweedy's 74th Beard Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share Posted November 22, 2007 WOW...what a bunch of asses on this board!!! (rwrkb...samorama) no sense of humour, plenty of anger...a lovely mix. I do intend on purchasing the disc, i just heard the tune once and was curious....a simple question with a fun/pun like title and everyone wets their pants...is this not the right place to pose such questions?happy thanksgiving jack offs!i'm sure your parents are proud! Thanks reuben for your response. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 WOW...what a bunch of asses on this board!!! (rwrkb...samorama) no sense of humour, plenty of anger...a lovely mix. I do intend on purchasing the disc, i just heard the tune once and was curious....a simple question with a fun/pun like title and everyone wets their pants...is this not the right place to pose such questions?happy thanksgiving jack offs!i'm sure your parents are proud! Thanks reuben for your response. Not really - I would have told you to use google.com - it works wonders when it comes to searching for information. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 WOW...what a bunch of asses on this board!!! thanks for contributing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 it's in the album liner notes, if you actually bought it.My thought exactly....also I thought it was interesting that Jeff sings the alternate version lyrics...of course.... Glenn and David Mansfield (from the Rolling Thunder Revue) I can't remember all the tracks that Nels plays on, need to check the liner notes for that...Mansfield was in the Alpha Band too.... Nels is on the cuts with the Million Dollar Bashers...also evident on the liner notes.... Has anyone seen the actually movie yet? No one has started at thread. It opened here yesterday to a decent review in the Trib. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest David Puddy Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 WOW...what a bunch of asses on this board!!! (rwrkb...samorama) no sense of humour, plenty of anger...a lovely mix. I do intend on purchasing the disc, i just heard the tune once and was curious....a simple question with a fun/pun like title and everyone wets their pants...is this not the right place to pose such questions?happy thanksgiving jack offs!i'm sure your parents are proud! Thanks reuben for your response. haha, i posted something similar to this a few months back. if you ever post again, get ready for this post to be quoted everytime... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 My thought exactly....also I thought it was interesting that Jeff sings the alternate version lyrics...of course.... Mansfield was in the Alpha Band too.... Nels is on the cuts with the Million Dollar Bashers...also evident on the liner notes.... Has anyone seen the actually movie yet? No one has started at thread. It opened here yesterday to a decent review in the Trib. LouieB It's over here - sometimes hiding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 It's over here - sometimes hiding. No man..I meant the thread that describes people who have actually seen this movie, not all the speculation (of which I was one...) LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 No man..I meant the thread that describes people who have actually seen this movie, not all the speculation (of which I was one...) LouieB Ah - I see your point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rwrkb Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 WOW...what a bunch of asses on this board!!! (rwrkb...samorama) no sense of humour, plenty of anger...a lovely mix. I do intend on purchasing the disc, i just heard the tune once and was curious....a simple question with a fun/pun like title and everyone wets their pants...is this not the right place to pose such questions?happy thanksgiving jack offs!i'm sure your parents are proud! Thanks reuben for your response. i think if any time was spent on this board you'd know that not only do i have plenty of anger, but a large sense of humor to go with it. half right isn't so bad, though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Steve Brule Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I am driven by my anger and large ass. Grrrrr. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Has anyone seen the actually movie yet? No one has started at thread. It opened here yesterday to a decent review in the Trib. here's a review someone posted on a dylan forum: So I managed to get an entourage together of 8 other people, including two of my professors at the Art school, to cross the border to see "I'm Not There"'s first night in the Detroit area, playing at Royal Oak's Main Art Theatre, which is a really nice little theatre. I was the only real Dylan fan(atic) in the group, though just about everyone was familiar with Bob to some degree. Being a Bob fan, obviously I have followed the making of this film from the moment it was quietly announced (back then with the additional "supositions on a film concerning Dylan" in the _title_) Haynes was going to do this project. At first I was excited by it, then cautious after hearing the approach Haynes was taking - not so much with the multiple actors thing, which I loved, but with the Dylan quotes being the dialogue. Seeing a leaked clip of the Ginsberg bit online did much to damage my hopes for the film, as that came off quite cheese-ball and I was afraid it might confirm my worst fears that the film was going to be one long inside joke trivia game. Over the next few months, advance press and analysis, plus a couple different trailers, helped to shift that perception back to one of something approaching optimism. I had planned to see this in NYC at the Film Forum in December as I was planning my first venture to see the city around seeing both Woody Allen's jazz band and this film it it's first theatrical limited run before it was to go wider and wider into full release sometime in the new year. Due to the great press and great advanced buzz it got, this week it expanded to several other theatres across the US, thankfully including one in the Detroit area which I would be able to see. So I rounded up a few people who would be interested and saw it tonight. The verdict - it was great, albeit awkward in some parts. Very creative story telling and it did play on the whole notion of Bob Dylan as a persona rather than trying to say some definitive version of Dylan the private person. First off, I was unaware so many actual Dylan original recordings were used in the film as I was under the impression that the songs from the soundtrack were the music from the film. Not so, not at all - and this was a welcome relief considering how well Dylan's own music worked, and, IMO, mostly only the best covers were utilized in the film. Of those cover versions, "Pressing On" by John Doe impressed me the most - it was used quite effectively. The cinematography all but stole the show, as it was astounding and quite beautiful. The many different types of film stock used helped the film itself take on a rich visual variety. Some great shots and mini-sequences abound, including one where the Sara character is washing dishes - great editing on a nice overhead shot. As a major Dylan fan, so many references and little bits of things here and there threatened to get in the way of the film as a whole sometimes, as most of those things were used well and effectively without sounding like someone was forcing a quote or a lyric /song reference in somewhere (ala the horrible Across The Universe film), but rather these are things that would be said by these characters - though occasionally, there were a few groaners (like the "pack up the meat sweet, we're heading out" bit). It was also nice to see these stories play out not so literally as I had feared previously. Blanchett's character was the most direct interpretation of Dylan, and they didn't just try to simply recreate Don't Look Back or something. Marcus Franklin's 11 year old boy part was really good and I think did perhaps the best job of capturing the essence of Bob in a time period. Richard Gere's part was, as said by many, the weakest, as Haynes seems rather unclear what he was attempting to do with that character or what he was trying to say about Bob. At least, he wasn't very clear in conveying it. I think perhaps he missed the chance to _base_ a character on "modern Bob" there as a man who continues on with life, committed to serving his calling and role into his old age... or something. The Gere segement was an unfulfilled possibility where it could have gotten the Dylan reference part of the story past the late 70's / early 80's and said something about Dylan in the modern era and thus covered, to some degree, his whole life and not just the first half of his career. My main other grievance with the film is that while it worked so hard at creating these multiple Dylans in this semi-fictional world of the 60's, it didn't make sense to me to make literal characters out of actual people when you weren't doing that for everyone. Ginsberg, Brian Jones, the Beatles, etc all kept their real names but Baez, Segwick, et al didn't. Perhaps Haynes should've went the extra mile and made ficitional characters out of some composite of these people, thus enabling you to include more references and, perhaps, stronger characters than the somewhat flat characters Neuwirth, Ginsberg, etc all somewhat became. Bale's Dylan portions were shown like a documentary with interviews, reporters and people recalling the past ala No Direction Home in some ways. While I liked the idea of making a parallel from the "protest Dylan" returning in the form of the gospel era Dylan, Haynes sort of mocks the gospel years by sticking him in a _base_ment and as a tacky, burned out, stumbling zombie of a guy, complete with bad leisure suit, semi-guy, terrible perm and sounding like drunk when talking. Of course, John Doe's inspired cover of Pressing On helps to protest this segement as the great cover song more than justifies Bob's born again phase as you cannot help but notice what a standout track that is, even if Haynes has got him in a _base_ment singing to 10 or 15 lost souls. One thing to watch throughout the film is the astonishing way the lighting is made to re-create the era they're filming. We're all familiar with images from these eras - and everything is absolutely spot on in terms of recreating those looks and feels through lighting. The hotel room feel from Dont Look Back is there in the Blanchett scenes, the dark eyes overhead stadium lighting from the gospel tour photos is there in the Pressing On scene, etc. Amazing stuff in that respect. Overall, this is worth seeing regardless of what you're going to think of it afterwards. By no means is this conventional, linear narrative territory, but it certainly is as good as cinema is going to get in trying to capture what makes Dylan who he is. Everyone I went with left feeling amazed and had a much bigger interest in Dylan leaving than they did going in. I was fielding lots of questions about Bob afterwards, which was kind of fun to know people were thinking about him and the music now, as I know this will be happening elsewhere now thanks to this film. 4.5/5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oceanman Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 I am driven by my anger and large ass. Grrrrr. I'm totally driven by asses also! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Ah - I see your point.I hope to see it soon and will post up if I do, but I suspect that some other more dedicated VCer will start one first. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Speaking of Bio films, I saw The Doors movie special edition dvd at Wal Mart the other night for 5 bucks. I may go see this Dylan film, but as a whole, I am turned off by rock bio films. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 $5 sounds about right, but then again I never saw this one.....Val Kilmer as Jim Morrison and what's his name the director always sounded like a bad combo.... Of the current crop, Control is a pretty good movie, but only if you like Joy Division, otherwise it might leave you kind of cold. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Well, as a big Doors fan at the time, it was cool to see it at the theater - but it seems pretty plastic after seeing it on TV or whatever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Yea, I guess I would sort of like to see it for a laugh or two even now. Supposedly Ric Addey of Shake Rattle and Read here in Chicago was tapped for some technical assistance on the movie. I never could tell if Ric was bullshitting or what, but he sure bragged about it at the time. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G_willy Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 I was home for thanksgiving break ( chicago area) and I was really excited b/c I figured that at least SOME theater in the chicago land area was going to be playing it. But to my dismay, I COULDN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE! Now I am stuck in Oshkosh waiting for it to goto DVD... that or a bootleg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 I was home for thanksgiving break ( chicago area) and I was really excited b/c I figured that at least SOME theater in the chicago land area was going to be playing it. But to my dismay, I COULDN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE! Now I am stuck in Oshkosh waiting for it to goto DVD... that or a bootleg Dude, it was here....three theaters including Evanston. Hopefully with the good press this is getting it will go into wider distribution. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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