Question about tuning?

[GutenAbend]

How in good gods name do i tune to this= F# A D F# A E .THis is like reading chinese to me! Any help would be much appreciated.Thanks

[Atticus]

How in good gods name do i tune to this= F# A D F# A E .THis is like reading chinese to me! Any help would be much appreciated.Thanks

 

changing from E to F#:

 

normally when you depress the low E string at the fifth fret, it makes the same note as the open A string

 

tune the low E up until when you depress the string at the 3rd fret, it makes the same note as the open A string

 

changing from G to F#:

 

normally when you depress the fifth fret on the D string, it is the same note as the open G string. Tune the G string down a half step until it is in tune with the fourth fret on the D string

 

changing the A to a B:

 

tune the B string up a whole step until when you depress the B string on the 3rd fret, it makes the same note as the open high E string

[froggie]

> F# A D F# A E

 

 

the way i'd do it is:

 

top bass string goes up two steps to an F# (if it doesnt snap in your face!) - otherwise tune it down to give a nice droning bass sound (maybe with some buzzing as you strum/pick)

 

leave the next as it is

 

leave the next as it is

 

the G string goes gown half a step

 

the B string goes down a whole step

 

leave the little E one as it is.

 

 

EADGBE is the standard tuning

[yankee]

How in good gods name do i tune to this= F# A D F# A E .THis is like reading chinese to me! Any help would be much appreciated.Thanks

 

I've heard of drop D and open G tunings, but what's this tuning? And what song is it used for?

[JerseyMike]

Get a tuner!

 

That is a strange tuning. Did you get that from a CS&N tune? Crosby was into some wierd tunings. My favorite is "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes": E E E E E B E

[takamine]

E E E E E B E

 

 

How would you play on that tuning?

[froggie]

i didnt know his guitars have 7 strings!

[Gobias Industries]

Get a tuner!

 

That is a strange tuning. Did you get that from a CS&N tune? Crosby was into some wierd tunings. My favorite is "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes": E E E E E B E

 

It's likely a Sonic Youth tuning. I faintly remember reading about that tuning...it's awfully strange but yeah.

[barnyard pimp]

not a sonic youth tuning. think more like F#F#F#F#EB, GGDDD#D#, EG#EG#EG#, GABDEG, etc for them.

 

what's so 'crazy' about F#ADF#AE ? looks like an open D w/ an F# on the bottom and an E on top instead of D. tunings altered by 3 notes don't seem so crazy to me

[anthony]

 

How would you play on that tuning?

 

Here is SJBE in that odd tuning (Stills uses it for Carry On, as well - if memory serves):

 

 

SUITE: JUDY BLUE EYES- Crosby, Stills and Nash

TUNING: E E E E B E  (D D D D A D also works)

INTRO: (strum the whole thing, check record for the timing)
  E					 E(no5)   E(no3)	E(no5)E(no3)	
E -7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-6-5--4--0-4--0-0-0-0-0---4-0-0-0-0-0------
B -9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-8-7--5--0-5--0-2p0-2p0---5-0-2p0-2p0------
E -0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0--0--0-0--0-0-0-0-0---0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-- (repeat)
E -0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0--0--0-0--0-0-0-0-0---0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0--
E -------------------------------------------------------------
E -------------------------------------------------------------

PART 1:
 E(no5)		   Asus2			E(no3)   B(no3)*	 Asus2 A7sus4
It's getting to the point, where I'm no fun anymore, I am sorry
 E(no3)   Asus2		   E(no3)	   B(no3)*	  Asus2 A7sus4
Sometimes it hurts so badly I must cry out loud, I am lonely
 E(no3)		 B(no3)		Asus2	   A7sus4		  E(no3) Asus2
I am yours, you are mine, you are what you are,   you make it hard

  E(no5)			Asus2			  E(no3)		   B(no3)*	 Asus2 A7sus4
Remember what we've said, and done, and felt about each other, oh babe, have mercy
E(no3)		Asus2			  E(no3)		 B(no3)*		 Asus2 A7sus4
Don't let the past remind us of what we are not now, I am not dreaming
   E(no3)		B(no3)		 Asus2	A7sus4		   REPEAT INTRO
I am yours, you are mine, you are what you are,	you make it hard

E(no5)	 Asus2			  E(no3)	   B(no3)		Asus2 
Tearing yourself away from me now, you are free and I am crying
E(no3)		Asus2				   E(no3)	 B(no3)			Asus2 A7sus4
This does not mean I don't love you, I do, that's forever, yes and for always
	E(no3)	   B(no3)		 Asus2	 A7sus4		 E(no3) Asus2
I am yours, you are mine, you are what you are,   you make it hard

  E(no5)   Asus2					E(no3)		 B(no3)*		  Asus2 A7sus4
Something inside is telling me that I've got your secret, are you still listening?
 E(no3)	 Asus2				 E(no3)	  B(no3)*	  Asus2 A7sus4
Fear is the lock and laughter the key to your heart, and I love you 
   E(no3)		B(no3)		 Asus2   A7sus4			 E(no3)  Asus2
I am yours, you are mine, you are what you are,   you make it hard 
			E(no3) Asus2		   E(no3) Asus2			   E(no3)
And you make it hard,   and you make it hard,	and you make it hard

PART 2:
E*=						   RIFF=
  <harmonics>
E -----<12>---5-5--4-5------   --5-3-------------
B -----<12>---5-5--5-5------   ------5-3---------
E -----<12>---0-0--0-0------   ----------5-4-0---
E --------------------------   ------------------
E --------------------------   ------------------
E -0-0------0---------------   ------------------

E*  E*

E*		   E*					Asus2 A7sus4  RIFF				  E* E*
Friday evening, Sunday in the afternoon,		what have you got to lose?
E*			E*						Asus2   A7sus4  
RIFF				  E* E*
Tuesday morning please, be gone, I'm tired of you,	 what have you got 
to lose?

   D6(no3)				Asus2				 
Can I tell it like it is? Listen to me baby 
D6(no3)								   
Asus2							E* E*
It's my heart that's a-sufferin', it's a dyin' and that's what I have to 
lose 

 E*			  E*				Asus2 A7sus4  RIFF				E* E*
I've got an answer, I'm going to fly away,	   what have I got to lose?
E*				E*					Asus2 A7sus4  
RIFF				  E* E*
Will you come see me, Thursdays and Saturdays,		what have you got 
to lose?

(SOLO- play notes on first string while simultaneously hitting 6th string 
for rhythm)

PART 3:
 D(no5)	E(no5) D(no5)		  E(no5)
Chestbrown canary, ruby throated sparrow
Esus2	   A/E		   E7(no3)		   D(no5) C#m(no5)
Sing a song, don't be long, thrill me to the marrow---
(SHORT SOLO)

Voices of the angels, ring around the moonlight
Askng me, said she's so free, how can you catch the sparrow 
(SHORT SOLO)

Lacy lilting lady, losing love lamenting
Change my life, make it right, be my lady 

D/E  C#m/E  D/E  C#m/E  D/E  C#m/E  D/E C#m/E D/E C#m/E C#m/E2 Bm/E

PART 4:
A(no3)   Bm(no3) F#m(no3) D(no3)2	   E(no3)2  
Du du du du du,	 du	  du	du du du du
A(no3)  Bm(no3) F#m(no3) D(no3)2  E(no3)2
Du du du du du,  du	  du	 du du
(REPEAT SEVEN TIMES)



CHORDS:
E	Esus2 E(no5) E(no3) Asus2 B(no3) B6(no3) A7sus4 Esus4  D6(no3) D(no5)  A/E
E --7-- --5--- --4--- --0--- --0--- --7--- --7--- --3--- --5--- --0--- --2--- --9---
B --9-- --7--- --5--- --0--- --0--- --7--- --9--- --3--- --5--- --0--- --3--- --10--
E --0-- --0--- --0--- --0--- --0--- --7--- --7--- --0--- --0--- --0--- --0--- --0---
E --0-- --0--- --0--- --0--- --0--- --7--- --7--- --0--- --0--- --0--- --0--- --0---
E --0-- --0--- --0--- --0--- --5--- --7--- --7--- --5--- --0--- --10-- ------ ------
E --0-- --0--- --0--- --0--- --5--- --7--- --7--- --5--- --0--- --10-- ------ ------

 E7(no3)C#m(no3) D/E  C#m(no3)C#m(no3)2 A(no3) Bm(no3) F#m(no3) D(no3)2 E(no3)2
E --10-- --0---  --14--  --12-- --9---   --5--- --7---  --14---  --10--- --12----  
B --12-- --1---  --10--  --9--- --9---   --5--- --7---  --14---  --10--- --12----
E --0--- --0---  --10--  --9--- --12--   --5--- --7---  --14---  --10--- --12----
E --0--- --0---  --0---  --0--- --0---   --5--- --7---  --14---  --10--- --12----
E ------ ------  ------  ------ ------   --5--- --7---  --14---  --10--- --12----
E ------ ------  ------  ------ ------   --5--- --7---  --14---  --10--- --12----

NOTES:
B(no3)* means alternate between B(no3) and B6(no3) like a blues rhythm 
pattern
E(no5) can substitute E(no3) since they are so similar. Asus2 can be 
played with all the strings barred at the 5th fret for a fuller sound.
I also like to play all the 12th string harmonics each time after he says 
"I am yours".

[mfwahl]

thanks for suite judy blue eyes. Can't wait to get home to try that out.