mfwahl Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 this is seriously no bait or dig or anyone, but what is really disheartening about these threads...so much focus on what everybody is against rather than what they're for. that is just my personal interpretation and it just kind of bums me out.I can dig that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 Ok. I think Rumsfeld is the one who fucked up. I agree entirely, but, at the end of the day, Bush chose to listen to Rumsfeld, rather than the near-deafening chorus of career military general types who tried to persuade him otherwise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 The answer to the original question is none, this guy is none cool and no I would not like to have a beer with him either, that was simply a campaign sales pitch to make him seem more like a regular guy than a guy who was born into privledge, went to prep-school, Yale, Harvard grad school, was a member of the most exclusive clubs on campus etc... By the way the campaign pitch worked beautifully for him. Oh, and Rumsfeld's responsibilities lay with f*&%ed up planning and bad advice. The president is the ultimate decider (his word not mine) on whether or not we were to invade. If you take it down to the bare bones level there are all sorts of people to blame, but ultimately the guy making the decisions relied on the people he asked to bring him advice. And I'm not even going to get into who got fired for bringing him the advice he did not want to hear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 ... sales pitch to make him seem more like a regular guy than a guy who was born into privledge, went to prep-school, Yale, Harvard grad school, was a member of the most exclusive clubs on campus etc... By the way the campaign pitch worked beautifully for him.There are plenty of "regular guys" who have done all of these things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 There are plenty of "regular guys" who have done all of these things. Yes there are i'm sure. But the republican party has made a cottage industry out of calling any democrat with those credentials or anything close to those credentials an elitist. So when their guy fits the elitist criteria they have to sell him as an average joe, which bush is not and has never been. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 not as cool as this guy... http://www.scribd.com/doc/2743822/TigerMikeMemos-very-funny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 not as cool as this guy... http://www.scribd.com/doc/2743822/TigerMikeMemos-very-funnywe have a winner! awesome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
myboyblue Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 not as cool as this guy... http://www.scribd.com/doc/2743822/TigerMikeMemos-very-funny I thought I ran a tight ship. I'm going to share these at next staff meeting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 I thought I ran a tight ship. I'm going to share these at next staff meeting.I have received similar memos over the last 10 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Bush Tours America To Survey Damage Caused By His Disastrous Country I don't care if you totally disagree w/ the sentiment here, it's damn funny! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 not as cool as this guy... http://www.scribd.com/doc/2743822/TigerMikeMemos-very-funny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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