Rather chilling news

[Sweet Papa Crimbo]

Maet the new boss (presumptive)...Same as the old boss?

 

 

Obama opens door to altering his Iraq policy

 

By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer

 

 

 

 

Democrat Barack Obama opened the door Thursday to altering his plan to bring U.S. troops home from Iraq in 16 months based on what he hears from military commanders during his upcoming trip there.

 

"I am going to do a thorough assessment when I'm there," he told reporters on the airport tarmac here. "I'm sure I'll have more information and continue to refine my policy."

 

During his presidential campaign, Obama has gone from the hard-edged, vocal opposition to Iraq that defined his early candidacy to more nuanced rhetoric that calls for a phased-out drawdown of all combat brigades that, at a rate of one or two a month, could last 16 months. He has said that if al-Qaida builds bases in Iraq, he would keep troops either in the country or the region to carry out "targeted strikes."

 

Republicans, who have been goading Obama to return to Iraq to see conditions for himself, pounced.

 

"There appears to be no issue that Barack Obama is not willing to reverse himself on for the sake of political expedience," said Alex Conant, a spokesman for the national Republican Party. "Obama's Iraq problem undermines the central premise of his candidacy and shows him to be a typical politician."

 

Obama's GOP rival, John McCain, has been a vocal supporter of the Iraq war and war policy has been a central disagreement between the two candidates.

 

But Obama insisted that his position has not changed at all.

 

He said he is saying now what he always has: The war was a mistake and needs to be brought to "a responsible end," but "we need to be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in." This means, he said, that his 16-month timeline was always premised on troops being safe and Iraq being stable.

 

"I'm going to continue to gather information to see whether those conditions still hold," he said. "My goal is to end this conflict as soon as possible."

 

Although he did not specifically mention his 16-month timeline on Thursday, Obama called it "pure speculation" to suggest he has been softening or even backing off his position as conditions improve in Iraq.

 

"I continue to believe that it is a strategic error for us to maintain a long-term occupation in Iraq at a time when conditions in Afghanistan are worsening, al-Qaida is continuing to establish bases in areas of northwest Pakistan, resources there are severely strained and we are spending $10 to $12 billion a month in Iraq that we desperately need here at home, not to mention the strains on our military," Obama said.

 

Obama plans a visit this summer to Jordan, Israel, Germany, France and the United Kingdom. The Illinois senator also has said he intends to visit Iraq and Afghanistan this summer as part of an official congressional trip that would be separate from the campaign-funded Mideast and European tour. It would be his second trip to Iraq.

[Analogman]

He is on CNN right now - saying that this story is false.

[okp greg]

You know, lately it seems as though Obama's doing one of two things: actually flip-flopping on some of his stances or trying to appear more attractive to voters not currently on his side. I really don't believe he's flip-flopping, but I don't know what he actually stands to gain. I don't foresee many people who aren't going to vote for him deciding to vote for him because of something like this. They've already made up their mind. It kind of seems like his campaign's just been running a bad last week or two.

 

edit: Personally, i feel he's been intentionally vague and ambiguous on some stances lately to attract those voters, but the only thing it may do is make some current voters rethink their support of him; whether or not he's actually taking a stance they disagree with.

[Mr. Kinsley]

I really don't see the big deal here. This is essentially what he's said all along, if you listen to more than the soundbites that get played on the news. He's always said 16 months. He's always said that we could have a small prescence in the region for strategic attacks, but not a full-blown occupation. And anyone who comes up with a strategy and sticks to it, regardless of the facts on the ground would be... well, they'd be George Bush.

 

I think we need to wait and see what comes out of the Iraq trip before we start flipping out.

[uncool2pillow]

I really don't see the big deal here. This is essentially what he's said all along, if you listen to more than the soundbites that get played on the news. He's always said 16 months. He's always said that we could have a small prescence in the region for strategic attacks, but not a full-blown occupation. And anyone who comes up with a strategy and sticks to it, regardless of the facts on the ground would be... well, they'd be George Bush.

 

I think we need to wait and see what comes out of the Iraq trip before we start flipping out.

Agreed!!

[mfwahl]

I don't see a change on position in this article.

[tugmoose]

Bad news for the Big Suicide Bomber On Campus:

 

July 3 (Bloomberg) -- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she's ``proud'' of the U.S. decision to wage the Iraq war and insisted that the world is not more dangerous than it was when George W. Bush took office.

 

``We're now beginning to see that perhaps it's not so popular to be a suicide bomber."

[bobbob1313]

Wow, so he's being logical? Shit, bad news.

[Edie]

I hate people who, when presented more information that is different than what they had thought, change their minds. We definitely don't need anyone who thinks.