ction Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 And rest assured, you will not hesitate to let us all know how rich you are. Wait, since when was JUDE rich? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Jeez, I didn't realize that inalienable human rights were strictly a fiscal matter. Only liberals care about human rights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 How many people in China are on the Internet debating the use of oil to increase the standard of living to the detriment of mother earth? That's the funny thing about liberals; they don Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ction Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Only liberals care about human rights. Says the kid who actually owns two monocles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Wait, since when was JUDE rich? "oil futures" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Have you ever been to South Florida? You can't just say that and then say we have to adopt mass transit. This isn't Chicago. It isn't New York. The cities weren't planned with this in mind. It's fine to criticize if you actually have an idea of what to do, but the fact of the matter is in Miami, and many North American cities, public transportation isn't a feasible option for the foreseeable future, and it has nothing to do with the lifestyle of the citizens and everything to do with a lack of city planning from the highest levels. Miami built out rather than up.I'd bet buses with 100 people on them could fit in those lanes created for personal automobiles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Jeez, I didn't realize that inalienable human rights were strictly a fiscal matter.No but having the free time, since you're not an indentured servant working for some conservative land owner, to rally for these rights is a by product of a high standard of living. "The retirement savings of workers across the country, entrusted to pension fund managers, are being plowed into one of the few investments that has delivered phenomenal returns in recent years...The risk is that if the remarkable run in oil and other futures markets reverses course, billions of dollars of retirement benefits could be wiped out." - SFGate Hmm, maybe Bush's lifting of the ban was a way for his buddies to short these futures thus wiping out the retirement funds of these poor folks and making billions of dollars in the process. Bwahhaha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I think JUDE is right about the continuing demand-growth for oil keeping prices generally trending upward. There may be fluctuations and many suspect the price will go down in a hurry if alternative energy starts approaching oil in (relative) affordability, but I would feel safe investing in oil companies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I'd bet buses with 100 people on them could fit in those lanes created for personal automobiles. I'm sure they could. It has nothing to do with lane sizes, don't be dense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 That's the funny thing about liberals; they don Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 No but having the free time, since you're not an indentured servant working for some conservative land owner, to rally for these rights is a by product of a high standard of living. Someone's been brushing up on his Mazlow's Hierarchy of Needs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
owl Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 No but having the free time, since you're not an indentured servant working for some conservative land owner, to rally for these rights is a by product of a high standard of living.So it's either slavery or destruction of our natural resources. I can see now that the choice is really easy for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 And rest assured, you will not hesitate to let us all know how rich you are. I'm not rich in the least, but I am comfortable. Sorry, not to fit into your classist attack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 you have GOT to be kidding me.Well, people who can't afford to be liberal sometimes become revolutionary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I see what he's saying, it was just very poorly worded. You can also say the opposite (about conservatives) and it would be just as true. It all depends on where you are coming from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Only liberals care about human rights.That sounds about right. And the other people care about dying on piles of money, surrounded by hot chicks in bikinis, all of which they are happily married to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 So it's either slavery or destruction of our natural resources.when is this happening? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
owl Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I'm not rich in the least, but I am comfortable. Sorry, not to fit into your classist attack.Speaking as one who has reaped some of the benefits of the recent administration, I will truly miss the big guy.Exactly. Well not exactly "fuck everyone else" but I've enjoyed some of the opportunities that have arisen with out too much government interference. Sorry you find success so distasteful. Vibes.Well, I don't like to brag but you won't hear me complaining about high gas prices. If you catch my drift. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 That sounds about right. And the other people care about dying on piles of money, surrounded by hot chicks in bikinis, all of which they are happily married to. That's how I picture El Famous and JUDE's weekly meetings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I'm not rich in the least, but I am comfortable. Sorry, not to fit into your classist attack.The point of my argument was to say that I can't afford it. So what is the harm in starting now to make sure we're both covered when things get worse than they are right now from an oil price standpoint? I don't begrudge you the ability to drive wherever you want to go, but I do think you need to accept that that isn't going to be a feasible way of life for everyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Edit: OWLYou obviously aren't familiar with the saying tongue-in-cheek, huh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Well, people who can't afford to be liberal sometimes become revolutionary. ? I have been poor and liberal most of my life. I don't get the statement in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Fuck you and your money, JUDE. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 The point of my argument was to say that I can't afford it. So what is the harm in starting now to make sure we're both covered when things get worse than they are right now from an oil price standpoint? I don't begrudge you the ability to drive wherever you want to go, but I do think you need to accept that that isn't going to be a feasible way of life for everyone. I'm not begrudging you any choices or opportunities, throw on those Birkenstocks and jump on your bike path, I have no problem helping fund those sorts of things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 ... dying on piles of money, surrounded by hot chicks in bikinis, all of which they are happily married to.I'll be back in a minute. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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