sweetheart-mine Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I think that's a question for a stat-head. I'm not good at that stuff.from a non-stat point of view, i don't think papi smiles as often as he did before manny left. they were great buddies and manny was very funny. i've been a little worried about papi's morale. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I don't think anyone said you can't do both. I just prefer not to get bogged down with stats. I'll glance at a player's basic stats when they flash them onscreen (BA, HR, RBI), but I really don't care what his batting average is with two outs and a runner on third, or what his OPS is against left-handers after the sixth inning in games in which his team trails. If you're into that stuff, fine ... but like religion, sometimes it's best to keep it to yourself. My appreciation of the statistical side of the game happens mostly during the evaluation of the game when the game isn't happening. Once the game goes on, that's my main focus. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 And I agree that sometimes too many stats can be overwhelming. But I just wish that in those instances where they only give you a few stats, they'd give you better ones that tell you more. Batting average, wins, saves etc. are what are getting in the way of understanding the game, not OPS, ERA+ and K/BB. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Zambrano really followed up the no-hitter well. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I just don't get why people cling to such useless stats... Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 My appreciation of the statistical side of the game happens mostly during the evaluation of the game when the game isn't happening....which is why I don't participate in threads like this very often. (Not aimed at you specifically, twobobs) Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted September 19, 2008 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 ...which is why I don't participate in threads like this very often."like this" Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 34.7% of people cling to useless stats Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I actually think this is probably the most civil thread on the whole cod damned bored. Assholes. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I'm better at enjoying baseball than bobbob. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I'm better at enjoying baseball than bobbob. Atheist. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted September 19, 2008 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 34.7% of people cling to useless stats67% of statistics are made up right there on the spot. Link to post Share on other sites
sweetheart-mine Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 100% of statistics are only numbers. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Link to post Share on other sites
EL the Famous Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Zambrano really followed up the no-hitter well. i can only follow it on yahoo scoreboard at work, but wtf?! Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...451/1/index.htm Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 man. Oh man... Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 I am going to make a bold assertion and say that at least one team from Los Angeles or Chicago will be in the World Series. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 I hate the implication that you can't enjoy the game on both levels. The divide between 'traditionalists' and 'stat heads' is ridiculous.TOO MANY stats make my head hurt, but some are quite useful and entertaining. Oh, and a good night for the Mets. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Just for fun, let's compare 6 relief pitchers this season: Pitcher 1: 65 IP, 2.08 ERA, 73 K, 7 BB, 0.92 WHIP Pitcher 2: 66 1/3 IP, 1.49 ERA, 73 K, 6 BB, 0.71 WHIP Pitcher 3: 65 1/3 IP, 1.65 ERA, 64 K, 16 BB, 0.83 WHIP Pitcher 4: 65 IP, 2.35 ERA, 74 K, 34 BB, 1.34 WHIP Pitcher 5: 85 1/3 IP, 2.32 ERA, 88 K, 37 BB, 1.15 WHIPPitcher 6: 62 1/3 IP, 1.44 ERA, 68 K, 17 BB, 0.95 WHIP One of these guys is being considered a strong candidate for the AL Cy Young Award this year, and is even being touted by some as an MVP candidate. If you chose Pitcher #4, the one with the highest WHIP and relatively unimpressive K/BB ratio and ERA, then you are right. Fortunately, pitcher #4 (Francisco Rodriguez) has a lot of "saves" so he's apparently a much better pitcher than the other guys (1: Jonathan Papelbon, 2: Mariano Rivera, 3: Joakim Soria, 5: J.P. Howell , 6: Joe Nathan) who were all more dominant this year. Howell isn't even a closer but had arguably a better season, and there were a number of non-closers I could have used just as well (Matt Thornton, Scott Downs, Grant Balfour, Jesse Carlson, Rafael Perez, etc. etc). Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 All that said, I really hope the Tigers try to sign K-Rod this offseason. Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 The magic number is.....ZERO Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 :bounce8 :bounce8 Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Not going to blameit on the umps, but how does CB Bucknor still have a job. THat guyis absolutely awful. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted September 21, 2008 Author Share Posted September 21, 2008 Not going to blameit on the umps, but how does CB Bucknor still have a job. THat guyis absolutely awful.Bucknor has a nice punch-out call behind the plate, but that's about it. A few years ago MLB players voted him the shittiest umpire in the majors in an S.I. piece. Link to post Share on other sites
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