intodeep Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 I don't post on this board often, but I love me some neil young. This album is shitty though. I purchased it this mornign and listened to it twice all the way through and it is not going to grow. some of the music and okay-good, but the lyrics are bad. it sounds like he is not challenged. He is uninspired. He coudl write this stuff in his sleep and it sounds like he did. He feels like he is capturing the moment, but he has captured crap. the backing band is not good either. They play very safe. Neil takes center stage and they just surround him. He needs to find his muse. He needs to play with different people that will challenge him to find a creative outlet again OR he needs to not put out an album a year just to put it out. LWW & CDII were both okay. To me this one is more along the lines of Are You Passionate, but Are you Passionate had the killer song Goin Home on it and this one has nothing close to that song. disapointing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamin' Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Neil's bullshit detector has always been iffy, but now its batteries are officially drained.Neil's bullshit detector (aka, David Briggs) passed away in 1995. RIP I'm going to do what I always do when Neil puts out a crappy album - pretend it doesn't exist. I'm going to listen to Zuma now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nodep5 Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Ok, I did it, I figured if I was going to bad mouth Neil I at least needed to listen to this new album and not just assume. Not to reward my intuition, but this is plain embarrassing. My fear is that my best friend (who can't stand Neil Young) will use this as evidence against me as why he sucks. I will have no defense. It makes you wonder what Neil is hearing on playback while recording this thing. I mean seriously, how can you put out a song like "Cough Up the Bucks" with a straight face. I hope this is a joke and that Neil is sending refund checks to anyone who purchases this! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kalle Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 There is no way that CDII or LWW comes close to this one, it really is just plain embarrassing and I really am hoping that he plays as little as possible from this when I see him next. I think Neil might actually be going senile now. Like previously said though, time to put on some classic Neil, Tonight's The Night here we come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThisIsNowhere Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 He is uninspired.I think he is definitely inspired. He's just taking this Linc-volt project too far. I would have been fine with just a documentary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bcart12 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I like the album. Down and dirty. Maybe the fact that I'm from Michigan helped me appreciate the car theme. Thought it was cheesy at first but it grew on my. Completely digging Fuel Line. I also like his shitty videos. I've always been known as a Neil Young fluffer though. I actually like Time Fades Away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
miss jayne Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 i know, right? me and my friends were singing it for days afterwards though Funny how Neil's stream of conscious behavior can get in one's head....he probably will present a masterpiece next. Or perhaps just bring eggs to the farmer's market in link volt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nodep5 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I like the album. Down and dirty. Maybe the fact that I'm from Michigan helped me appreciate the car theme. Thought it was cheesy at first but it grew on my. Completely digging Fuel Line. I also like his shitty videos. I've always been known as a Neil Young fluffer though. I actually like Time Fades Away. Wait a minute... who doesn't like Time Fades Away? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CortezTheKiller Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I like the album. Down and dirty. Maybe the fact that I'm from Michigan helped me appreciate the car theme. Thought it was cheesy at first but it grew on my. Completely digging Fuel Line. I also like his shitty videos. I've always been known as a Neil Young fluffer though. I actually like Time Fades Away.Please do not draw a connection between FITR and TFA. Someone already made a weak connection between FITR and TTN. I find FITR to be anything but down and dirty. The Ditch Trilogy is down and dirty. Half of Zuma is down and dirty. The 2nd half of Rust Never Sleeps is down and dirty. Parts of Greendale are down and dirty. Fork in the Road is just brutal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CortezTheKiller Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 My fear is that my best friend (who can't stand Neil Young) will use this as evidence against me as why he sucks. I will have no defense.A bad album in the twilight of an illustrious career will serve as damning evidence that Neil Young sucks? Your friend must be undefeated when he argues with you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nodep5 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 A bad album in the twilight of an illustrious career will serve as damning evidence that Neil Young sucks? Your friend must be undefeated when he argues with you. I have poor self esteem Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Frank Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I like the album. Down and dirty. Maybe the fact that I'm from Michigan helped me appreciate the car theme. Thought it was cheesy at first but it grew on my. Completely digging Fuel Line. I also like his shitty videos. I've always been known as a Neil Young fluffer though. I actually like Time Fades Away. I thought everyone liked Time Fades Away?. This is one of his recognised classics. I actually love the fact it's not readily available and not out of CD. Gives it even more mystic status. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Funny how Neil's stream of conscious behavior can get in one's head....he probably will present a masterpiece next. Or perhaps just bring eggs to the farmer's market in link volt i think he's got maybe 1 or 2 masterpieces left. however, i don't think we're gonna get those until neil is well into his 70s. when all he can do is sit, play his acoustic, and sing low...we'll get some classic neil. interestingly since prairie wind it's basically been every other album being pretty good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bcart12 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I thought everyone liked Time Fades Away?. This is one of his recognised classics. I actually love the fact it's not readily available and not out of CD. Gives it even more mystic status. Well, I don't claim to be a Neil scholar or anything just a fan, but doesn't Neil hate this album and most critics consider that band incarnation to not be up to par? Isn't the main reason for most of the accolades due to the scarcity of the album and fan lure? Whatever it is I like the album. Also, I was not trying to make any comparisons to FITR and TFA, just the fact that they both seem to have critics on both sides of the fence. Also, I don't care what anyone says, the album is down and dirty and I like it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion folks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CortezTheKiller Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Everyone is entitled to their opinion folks.Yup. And we shared them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Frank Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Well, I don't claim to be a Neil scholar or anything just a fan, but doesn't Neil hate this album and most critics consider that band incarnation to not be up to par? Isn't the main reason for most of the accolades due to the scarcity of the album and fan lure? Whatever it is I like the album. Also, I was not trying to make any comparisons to FITR and TFA, just the fact that they both seem to have critics on both sides of the fence. Also, I don't care what anyone says, the album is down and dirty and I like it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion folks.You're probably right on that to a degree. I'm probably guilty on that charge. I agree the playing on the album is sloppy, and Neil is known to have problems with it. That said, it is a great album, definately in his top five. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bcart12 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 This is a wiki history so it may not be completely accurate. Time Fades Away: History Though "Love In Mind" dates from a 1971 solo tour (the same 1/30/71 concert where "The Needle and the Damage Done" was recorded), all other songs on the album were extracted from recordings made during a 62-date tour in early 1973 that featured an acoustic set with Young followed by an electric set featuring the guitarist and his then-backing band, the Stray Gators. Looming large in Young's mind was the death of longtime collaborator and former Crazy Horse guitarist Danny Whitten of a heroin overdose; Whitten was set to join the Gators as a second guitarist but was sent home after it became evident to all of the players involved that he was in no condition to embark on a rigorous tour. This motif of death and gloom recurred throughout the period, culminating in Tonight's the Night. The tour came on the heels of the megaplatinum success of the singer's previous effort, the quaint, country-tinged Harvest. Audiences did not react positively to the new songs premiered every night; neither were they fond of the Gators' new sound[citation needed], more reminiscent of the hard-rocking Crazy Horse of old. Guzzling prodigious amounts of tequila, Young grew mentally unstable as the tour progressed, frustrating drummer Kenneth Buttrey to the point where he left the group 2/3rds of the way through. He was replaced by ex-Turtles and CSNY (and future Jefferson Airplane) percussionist Johnny Barbata, who plays on all of the recordings contained on the album. Similarly infuriated by the singer's lack of professionalism was pianist Jack Nitzsche, who according to producer Elliot Mazer in the book Shakey would often spew obscenities into his switched-off vocal microphone. Similarly, pedal steel/dobro player Ben Keith was so inebriated at one soundcheck that he had no idea of what instrument he was playing. For the tour, Young switched from his trademark Gibson Les Paul to a Flying V, an instrument he never truly grew accustomed to. Alcohol abuse, combined with his near-falsetto singing style on the tour, would lead Young to develop a throat infection in the final days of the tour. Called in to supplement the harmonies and add some extra guitar were David Crosby and Graham Nash. Clashes continued, with Nitzsche complaining that he couldn't hear himself playing because Crosby's 12-string electric guitar overpowered the sound mix (this was likely true, as keyboard miking technology was in its infancy at this point). The tour ended in Salt Lake City after ninety days. Along with the soundtrack to Journey Through the Past, Time Fades Away remains the only officially released Neil Young album unavailable on CD. Many Young aficionados like to believe that this is due to bad memories of the tour that spawned the record, though the problem may be due to more of a technical nature than anything else. Time Fades Away was recorded directly from the soundboard to final 2-track masters using the Quad-8 CompuMix, the first and utterly unreliable digital mixing soundboard--against the wishes of producer David Briggs, who referred to it as the "Compufuck" but was forced to yield to the desires of Young. This resulted in a murky-sounding release; because the final mixes were those rough cuts, the album cannot be remixed. There were no 2 track masters ever made of this record. The master discs were cut directly from the 16 track masters through the Compumix system. A mix was recorded to a second 16 track machine-we had 2 that would run perfectly together-to feed the variable pitch system of the lathe-but was discarded when we were through. I was the mastering engineer who cut the masters. Phil Brown At the time of its release, Time Fades Away was poorly received in comparison to its predecessor, missing the Top 20 and gaining few critical accolades.[citation needed] However, due to its scarce nature in recent years, consensus among the Young faithful now places the record in the league of his greatest artistic triumphs.[citation needed] In 1995, there were plans to release the album on CD using the HDCD encoding which went as far as having several test pressings made. However, the CD release was shelved for unknown reasons.[1] In early 2007, Young's management reiterated that there were no plans to release the album on CD. Pristine vinyl copies are still readily available in used stores and on eBay, often with the fold-out liner notes still intact. There are still some CDs in existence from the 1995 test pressings which have made their way outside of the record company. Copies of these CDs are often circulated as bootlegs. Additionally, some fans have made CDs from the more readily available vinyl copies. The title track was briefly released as a single and featured "Last Trip To Tulsa" on the B-side, a live version also taken from the "Time Fades Away" tour and unavailable anywhere else. Neil Young commented on Time Fades Away in the original, unreleased liner notes for Decade. "Time Fades Away. No songs from this album are included here. It was recorded on my biggest tour ever, 65 shows in 90 days. Money hassles among everyone concerned ruined this tour and record for me but i released it anyway so you folks could see what could happen if you lose it for a while. I was becoming more interested in an audio verite approach than satisfying the public demands for a repetition of Harvest."[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Fades_Away Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CortezTheKiller Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Wiki history (I actually didn't read it) and critics aside, Time Fades Away is easily one of my favorite Neil Young records. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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