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Remain In Light is their best piece of work. And Speaking in Tongues an Little Creatures hold up with their previous albums.

 

I would probably agree with the first sentence, but not the second. Remain in Light came out in 1980. I think they went downhill after that one, and never again put out an entire album of great tunes. Their first three albums is a better collection of music than Big Star's output, in my opinion. If you include Remain in Light, it's not even close.

 

So when are Big Star coming back to Atlanta? I'd love to see them again.

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I considered them. Marquee Moon is probably my favorite album of the '70s. If they had put out two more albums that were as good, it'd be no contest.

 

XTC and Devo might be worthy contenders.

 

XTC did their best work in the 80's.

Devo: I'm not sure of the release dates of their albums.

 

Although, what about The Ramones?

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1977 My Aim Is True

1978 This Year's Model

1979 Armed Forces

 

I considered him, but it was a borderline violation of my self-imposed rules regarding band vs. frontman w/ backing band. I'd probably put that body of work ahead of Big Star.

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I considered him, but it was a borderline violation of my self-imposed rules regarding band vs. frontman w/ backing band. I'd probably put that body of work ahead of Big Star.

 

gotcha. fair point.

It's also a bit weird for the "best of the 70s" to be weighted so heavily towards the "end of the 70s."

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If nothing else, this thread shows two things:

 

1. Virtually all of the best bands of the '70s (meaning, bands that originated in the '70s), came along during the last three or four years of the decade. '77-'80 was clearly one of the all time high points for rock/pop music.

 

2. They all released albums at a pace that is much, much more impressive than the current norm. And the ratio of filler to top shelf music hasn't changed much.

 

Oh, and I'll throw another one up for consideration:

 

PERE UBU

 

Date ALBUMS / Singles

1975 December 30 Seconds Over Tokyo (single)

1976 March Final Solution (single)

1976 November Street Waves (single)

1977 August Untitled (single)

1978 January THE MODERN DANCE (LP)

1978 April DATAPANIK IN THE YEAR ZERO (EP)

1978 November DUB HOUSING (LP)

1979 September NEW PICNIC TIME (LP)

1979 October The Fabulous Sequel (Have Shoes Will Walk)

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It shows a third thing, too. Big Star was not the best band of the 70s. :)

That's like, your opinion. Man.

 

Elvis was great, but I don't think he was as consistent. His albums have always been very lopsided for me.

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That's like, your opinion. Man.

 

Elvis was great, but I don't think he was as consistent. His albums have always been very lopsided for me.

 

Yes, Alan. I didn't mean to suggest that I had settled this issue. Just that a lot of people in this thread have listed lots of bands that are (IMO) better than Big Star.

 

Also, we are focused on the 70s. I can understand if you think Elvis's albums can be lopsided, but his first three albums (i.e., the ones from the 70s)?

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Sticky Fingers 1971

Exile on Main Street 1972

Goat's Head Soup 1973

It's Only Rock and Roll 1974

Black and Blue 1976

Some Girls 1978

 

or

 

Workingman's Dead 1970

American Beauty 1970

Mars Hotel 1974

Blues For Allah 1975

Terrapin Station 1977

Shakedown Street 1978.

 

ok, so they seem to belong to 60s, and the output is varied. But crap, you can't say that all the good music came from the late 70s because the best of the stuff listed above is the early stuff

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I must say, I love Goat's Head Soup: Dancing With Mr. D, Heartbreaker, Angie, Silver Train, Star Star ... great album.

 

Speaking of others who owned the 70s (with very little notable output in the 60s), how about this guy:

 

1970 Elton John

1970 Tumbleweed Connection

1971 Madman Across the Water

1972 Honky Château

1973 Don't Shoot Me I'm Only the Piano Player

1973 Goodbye Yellow Brick Road

1974 Caribou

1975 Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy

1975 Rock of the Westies

1976 Blue Moves

 

Even if you discounted the first album as inferior to what was to come, and stopped at 1974, that's still a stellar run of 6 classic albums in 4 years.

 

Oh, yeah, Big Star is pretty good.

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To my taste, yes, Big Star was the best 70s band.

 

I'm ready for the hate mail, but my number two would be Skynyrd.

 

And, I'd add that this is all b/c of playing by the rules. Definitely that early 70s Stones exceeds Big Star.

 

I don't know if they would be number 2, but Thin LIzzy would (should) certainly qualify for Top-10, at the bare minimum.

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There is a great article on Big Star in the November MOJO magazine. Some great quotes from Alex like:

 

"People say Big Star made some of the best rock'n'roll albums ever. And I say they're wrong"

 

and

 

"I still see myself as a poor songwriter. A few songs are good but many are real clunkers"

 

and about Thirteen

 

"That's one of my almost-good songs. I don't know where it came from but I made up this wild bit of guitar in 15 minutes. you don't hear many 20-year-olds doing that"

 

I would kill to have written anything on those first 3 big star albums!

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