-seven Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I think you were pretty clear. Are you looking for a fight or just bored? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sunken mountain Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 The Euro leftists have had a long fascination with anarchy. Nothing like a bunch of spoiled, rich kids marching in the street to get my sense of irony and loathing for the spawn of the middle class in full force. You have the power to say all that I wish to say just a minute before... The Euro leftists... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Are you looking for a fight or just bored? Probably a bit of both. Not fair using you own words against you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost of Electricity Posted December 20, 2010 Author Share Posted December 20, 2010 And now it's happening in Belarus too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 The Euro leftists have had a long fascination with anarchy. Nothing like a bunch of spoiled, rich kids marching in the street to get my sense of irony and loathing for the spawn of the middle class in full force. Could you circle which kids in each photo were rich? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Could you circle which kids in each photo were rich? Could you circle which kids weren't? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 No, which is why I didn't make any statements about them being destitute or rich, spoiled brats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 No, which is why I didn't make any statements about them being destitute or rich, spoiled brats. They are probably all nice, poor kids protesting the injustice Like this fine fellow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Would it be rude at this point to ask you to remind me again how many iPods you've purchased for your children? We know that they're rioting European youth, and that's all we know. It's fine to leave it at that, you know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 We also know that they're douchebags. What class of douchebags, however, is left to speculation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 And most of them enjoy the musical stylings of David Hasselhoff, which should ALWAYS give us pause. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost of Electricity Posted December 20, 2010 Author Share Posted December 20, 2010 The Euro leftists have had a long fascination with anarchy. Nothing like a bunch of spoiled, rich kids marching in the street to get my sense of irony and loathing for the spawn of the middle class in full force. We also know that they're douchebags. What class of douchebags, however, is left to speculation. Am I to understand that you are both in favour of the skyrocketing costs of higher education? If this makes any sense, it is none that I can see. If it is the rich you are against, what better way is there to ensure their elitist status than denying higher education to the middle classes by pricing them out of it? Or maybe it is activism itseld you are against? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Am I to understand that you are both in favour of the skyrocketing costs of higher education? If this makes any sense, it is none that I can see. If it is the rich you are against, what better way is there to ensure their elitist status than denying higher education to the middle classes by pricing them out of it? Or maybe it is activism itseld you are against?I think it's probably the rioting rather than the activism they are against. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I am against education in general. And active riotism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 In Los Estados Unidos, it's not so much about education being so expensive that most people can't get one. It's about how much debt a college grad is saddled with once they get their sheepskin and how that affects their future choices in life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 In Los Estados Unidos, it's not so much about education being so expensive that most people can't get one. It's about how much debt a college grad is saddled with once they get their sheepskin and how that affects their future choices in life. yeah, like $60,000. that will put a damper on your future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Am I to understand that you are both in favour of the skyrocketing costs of higher education? If this makes any sense, it is none that I can see. If it is the rich you are against, what better way is there to ensure their elitist status than denying higher education to the middle classes by pricing them out of it? Or maybe it is activism itseld you are against? Given that they are holding signs demanding free education, I would say they want a little more than reasonable fees. But mostly I'm just against douchebaggery. I think it's probably the rioting rather than the activism they are against. Nothing says "we have reasonable demands" like destroying private property. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Fact: Most people who commit acts of vandalism during protests have no real connection to the protests. They're just douchebags who see the occasion of thousands of people in the street as license to break stuff. This provides those who disagree with the protesters a justification for denouncing the protesters as douchebag vandals. In many cases, the vandals have turned out to be on the opposite side from the protesters, but allowed themselves to be associated with the protesters in an attempt to discredit them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 In Los Estados Unidos, it's not so much about education being so expensive that most people can't get one. It's about how much debt a college grad is saddled with once they get their sheepskin and how that affects their future choices in life. True, though a lot of that has to do with people's choices in schools. If you choose a private or out of state college, it's gonna cost a lot more. I don't know how it is in other states, but here you can at least get tuition fully paid just for having decent grades and test scores (and there are lots of full ride scholarships if your numbers are a little better). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost of Electricity Posted December 20, 2010 Author Share Posted December 20, 2010 Given that they are holding signs demanding free education, I would say they want a little more than reasonable fees. But mostly I'm just against douchebaggery. Where I live higher education is free. I happen to think that is admirable. Progress is possible, but not unless people are prepared to push for it. Though I do not agree with their means, the goal is a good one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I don't know how it is in other states, The University of Minnesota, in an attempt to raise its national reputation, is refusing more and more in-state applicants. Only the best kids in Minnesota consider it a done-deal or a fallback school anymore. It's fucking ridiculous - the state is showing no interest in actually educating its residents in favor of boosting the school's reputation, which they say will "add value" to the degrees that none of its state's residents can really get in the first place. That, and it's hardly a value anymore. In-state tuition is $12,000, not counting cost of living or mandatory "student fees" that end up in the thousands. My girlfriend will leave her state school education with a new car or two in debt - and she received tons of aid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Where I live higher education is free. I happen to think that is admirable. Progress is possible, but not unless people are prepared to push for it. Though I do not agree with their means, the goal is a good one. So everyone is entitled to free healthcare, a free college degree, a 35 hour work week, and retirement at 50? Do they not have math in Europe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 The University of Minnesota, in an attempt to raise its national reputation, is refusing more and more in-state applicants. Only the best kids in Minnesota consider it a done-deal or a fallback school anymore. It's fucking ridiculous - the state is showing no interest in actually educating its residents in favor of boosting the school's reputation, which they say will "add value" to the degrees that none of its state's residents can really get in the first place. That, and it's hardly a value anymore. In-state tuition is $12,000, not counting cost of living or mandatory "student fees" that end up in the thousands. My girlfriend will leave her state school education with a new car or two in debt - and she received tons of aid. Wow, that is pretty shitty. I think tutition here was like $8000 when I went (it's probably gone up a little since then), and you probably wouldn't pay any tuition if your high school GPA was above 3.5. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Yeah, what they're doing is despicable, in my opinion. If I might be so bold, I thought state schools exist to provide good higher education to their own residents. And they are king of hidden fees. I posted this earlier in the thread, but they put their initial sticker price as _____, but then as you continue to read the information you find out that everything's a good deal more expensive than their "base price." All the other law schools I applied to have the absolute total cost per year, and break it down from there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 The University of Minnesota, in an attempt to raise its national reputation, is refusing more and more in-state applicants. Only the best kids in Minnesota consider it a done-deal or a fallback school anymore. It's fucking ridiculous - the state is showing no interest in actually educating its residents in favor of boosting the school's reputation, which they say will "add value" to the degrees that none of its state's residents can really get in the first place. That, and it's hardly a value anymore. In-state tuition is $12,000, not counting cost of living or mandatory "student fees" that end up in the thousands. My girlfriend will leave her state school education with a new car or two in debt - and she received tons of aid. How come you Minnesotans are not rioting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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