ih8music Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 At last somebody almost gets it. its called having an opinion and not running with the herd . not because its cool to hate popular acts, (if that was the case i wouldn't like the smiths, radiohead,bowie and dylan amongst others), but because you just really dont like it. Are some people on here really so dumb to think you can't form an opinion on The Beatles without having heard an album? I grew up in 60/70's Britain, they were freaking EVERYWHERE!!But what you did in the other thread was dismissed The Beatles as "drivel" despite never having listened to them beyond radio/tv osmosis. That's very different than saying "I gave them a try, but still don't care for them." One is an informed opinion; the other isn't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Are some people on here really so dumb to think you can't form an opinion on The Beatles without having heard an album?Watch yourself. VIA CHICAGO FORUM POLICIES Regarding Forum Etiquette It is our intention at Via Chicago to foster an online community that is welcoming, all-ages friendly, and enjoyable for all our membership. Toward that end, we expect all posts, including signature lines, to be civil and respectful. The following will not be tolerated: Personal attacks on other members.Baiting. Do not try to get a rise out of another member with your comments.Racist, sexist, inappropriate or threatening comments or excessive profanity.Posting of images which are graphic in nature, nude or racist images or cartoons.Spam and personal advertisements, including "street-teaming". Via Chicago is not your free advertising space.Links to full albums or any other copyrighted material (software, serial numbers, etc.)Wilco has a long-standing policy against the videotaping of their shows, and out of respect for this policy, the posting of such videos on Via Chicago is not allowed.This also applies to solo Jeff Tweedy shows. Besides these rules, please also abide by the following common sense guidelines:Check that you are posting in the appropriate forumCheck that you are not starting a new thread for a topic which already exists (the "Search" function will help here)Avoid starting threads on inflammatory topics (Abortion would be an example.)Avoid being dismissive of other peoples' opinions. Try "I don't see it that way." instead of "That's bullsh*t!" or "I don't care for that band" rather than "That band sucks!" It's called civility.And please, please,don't post in all capital letters!Threads and posts which request personal and private information about the band ("Does anyone know the address of Wilco's recording studio?") are in very poor taste and are tacky and stalker-ish. Don't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I think what people are trying to tell "you" is that it's wrong to dislike the Beatles (I put "you" in quotes because I forget whom we're talking about) Watch yourself. I don't see it that way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gryffe Posted October 12, 2011 Author Share Posted October 12, 2011 How many times have you heard "Sexy Sadie?" "Long, Long, Long?" "She said she said?" "Don't Pass me By?" "Two of Us?" Countless times? Literally countless? Too often! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anthony Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I can see how someone could grow tired of the Beatles (how many times can you listen to a song before it looses its luster? 20? 80? 244?) and I can also see how someone would grow tired of the over-saturation of the Beatles in our culture ( how many repackages, reissues, shoe commercials, elevator Muzac, movie soundtracks can one person endure?) and I can see how someone would be annoyed with the BabyBoomer obsession with a band that hasn't put out a record in 40 years (considering all the fantastic music put out since; I feel kinda bad for those BBers who say the word "Rocktober" and crank up "Sweet Home Alabama" when it comes on Classic Rock Radio - they have missed out on so much) but I cannot see how one could go any reasonable amount of time and not actually hear a Fab Four record. Say what you want, they are hard to miss... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 It is pretty funny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
i'm only sleeping Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I never have heard a complete song by (aargh) Freddie Mercury or (even worse, if that is possible) Queen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I would argue the opposite of the original premise. I think sometimes in our culture it takes a concerted effort to hear certain pieces of music as music. The Beatles are like this, as are U2 and the Stones. Their marketing has been so massive, their brand so ubiquitous that it takes effort just to hear a record of theirs as a band making songs. I get the same taste in my mouth from a U2, 3-D movie trailer, or cardboard cutout at Guitar Center as I do from a lame Nike ad. I have to divorce that experience from a very different experience of listening to Joshua Tree as just a great album by some Irish guys hanging out with Brian Eno. I think it isn't heroic to dismiss something from popular culture merely because it is popular; it's pretentious. What is admirable is being able to take in media and process it (maybe even enjoy it) not for what it is publicized to mean, but what it actually seems to mean- in of itself, as well as an indicator for what popular culture values. I think Chuck Klosterman understands this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost of Electricity Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Anyway, I don't like Steely Dan. I can't get over the voice. The same way that many people dislike Neil Young, Bob Dylan, he Smiths/Morrissey, The Decemberists, etc. etc. I love all of those guys ('cept maube Smiths/Morrisey) but I can understand how the vocals would turn someone away. Steely Dan? Those vocals turn me away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I never have heard a complete song by (aargh) Freddie Mercury or (even worse, if that is possible) QueenPsst: Freddie Mercury's the singer for Queen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
i'm only sleeping Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Psst: Freddie Mercury's the singer for Queen.Unfortunately for everybody, everytime, he was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redpillbox Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 hmmmm...I couldn't get passed the arbitrary punctuation of that blog post (which is probably pretentious on my part). Also, I ran up against this and decided I probably wasn't that interested: "not sure I ever made it all the way through Blonde On Blonde" I realize this isn't the exact point the blogger and original poster are making, but I always thought you should define yourself more by what you are (or what you love) rather than what you aren't (or what you dislike). I'd rather spend more time in the "I dig these Wilco characters" realm, as opposed to "god, I really hate the f#*&ing Beatles and here's why" (although I've said that before about the Eagles)...That's not to say you can't be critical, but at least be honest about it. So much music writing is bent on getting a rise out of people these days. I think if you spend too much time in that space where you're constantly slagging on things, then you run the risk of becoming a blowhard. Nobody likes that guy, even if you're right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anthony Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 hmmmm...I couldn't get passed the arbitrary punctuation of that blog post (which is probably pretentious on my part). Also, I ran up against this and decided I probably wasn't that interested: "not sure I ever made it all the way through Blonde On Blonde" I realize this isn't the exact point the blogger and original poster are making, but I always thought you should define yourself more by what you are (or what you love) rather than what you aren't (or what you dislike). I'd rather spend more time in the "I dig these Wilco characters" realm, as opposed to "god, I really hate the f#*&ing Beatles and here's why" (although I've said that before about the Eagles)...That's not to say you can't be critical, but at least be honest about it. So much music writing is bent on getting a rise out of people these days. I think if you spend too much time in that space where you're constantly slagging on things, then you run the risk of becoming a blowhard. Nobody likes that guy, even if you're right.There is some truth in this, for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IRememberDBoon Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 still havent seen The Big Lebowski and im a huge Bridges and movie fan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anthony Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 still havent seen The Big Lebowski and im a huge Bridges and movie fanThe Big Lebowski might be my favorite movie of all time - and I am not a Bridges fan (generally). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-seven Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 still havent seen The Big Lebowski and im a huge Bridges and movie fan One of my all time favorite movies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Unfortunately for everybody, everytime, he was. where's that LOL emoticon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Queen Amaranthine Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 i don't have any tattoos i don't either, nor do I have a desire for one. I've seen some cool ones, and each to his or her own, but I don't want one myself. NPR did a story not too long ago about how there are no regulations or standards for tattoo inks, so it's hard to say what they contain. Outside of Shania Twain, I can't tell one pop country music star from another. To me they are all twangy dudes in cowboy hats and chicks with fluffy hair. I have no idea what the latest top country songs are. The closest I get to country music is an occasional listen to Uncle Tupelo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ih8music Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 eff the Beatles, having not watched The Big Lebowski is just indefensible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lamradio Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Outside of Shania Twain, I can't tell one pop country music star from another. To me they are all twangy dudes in cowboy hats and chicks with fluffy hair. I have no idea what the latest top country songs are. The closest I get to country music is an occasional listen to Uncle Tupelo. Aww but you are missing out on real country though. There's so much great rootsy country (way it should be) out there to be heard. Justin Townes Earle, Daniel Romano, to name a couple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 If you don't like the Beatles, your opinions about music no longer carry weight with me. I know it's an unfair bias, but there it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anthony Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 If you don't like the Beatles, your opinions about music no longer carry weight with me. I know it's an unfair bias, but there it is.I feel the same way about politicians who say the are skeptical about evolution. Their whole decision-making credibility is now in question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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