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The fact that I'm listening to all of that stuff at the moment (except Dr. Dog who I've never heard of) is nice but mainly, I really like Jeff's quote about albums having their own internal logic. I'd never been able to articulate that before. Damn you Tweedy you legend.

Dr. Dog is good. They owe Tweedy for my love definitely.

underratered: i'm a wheel

overrated: she's a jar

No! you must be kidding!

Underrated: Leave Me Like You Flound Me

Overrated: Late Greats

That's a good point

Modern bands: #1 Wilco

I'm 8'11'' 450 wanna fight?

If I'm going on record I have to say:

1. Bob Dylan

2. The Band

3. Wilco

4. Pavement

btw Mavis Staples is gonna be on Conan tonight if anyone cares. If you've seen Last Waltz you know you want to see it.

Sorry to spam as i did post it someplace else, but given that the clip is of a fantistic solo done live, I figure it's relvant here as well:

 

 

Enjoy...

Thank you. It literally gave me chills.

Way better than My Darling. I think this song has a nice sonic quality about it. I'll have to listen to it again but I remember there being an instrumental section that I really like in it. And the ending has an eerie Flaming Lips quality to it that I like.

Press Secretary Tony Snow's weapon of choice is the flute.

Some videos for proof:

On guitar and flute VS Bob Schieffer's band (#1 on the list)

I don't think music theory is necessary to write better music but I don't see how it's bad. It's a tool to pick up and use. Creativity and knowledge are not mutually exclusive. If someone is learning music theory and they feel themselves getting squarer and less original: Stop! But they probably have bigger demons to wrestle with. I think why people think that music theory makes people square is probably because if someone already had a knack for writing they wouldn't feel theory is important and if someone didn't get how music works they might take a class in it. That would put good natural songwriters in a position of not needing to learn and bad ones needing to learn it. But if a good songwriter learns some theory I can't see how it can hurt. I took theory classes and was still able to retain my own ideas about music. I just don't understand how people think that theory is some crippling thing. Take it with a grain of salt. If you come across an idea use it, and if not, no one will tell on you for not following the rules (but it is "theory" not rules anyway). Also, the same ideas in theory can e learned outside of a classroom. With the internet and instruction books and camps these days, how can someone not come across something about theory. Or even just owning ears. Listening to music and learning songs is just as much a form of learning music theory. It's just a theory to explain what sounds good. After seeing a 12 bar blues a few times even in different keys someone who is not classically trained should pick up the pattern. I IV V chords become apparent and the concept of keys comes to light this way.

Also someone said that Miles among some other jazz musicians weren't classically trained. Actually Miles studied trumpet in school since he was a kid and went to Julliard, a classical school for college. While he dropped out of there because he thought it was square, his classical training is what gave him his big break. Charlie Parker was too busy with heroin that he needed his new trumpet player to be able to write arrangements. That's how Miles got the job playing with Bird. Fun fact.

Oh, I forgot to answer the original question. He knows 37%.

Exactly. Music theory is a theory. It's not rules. And it's not as if music theory only comes in a classroom. Just because the Beatles weren't classically trained doesn't mean everytime they wrote a song they stumbled upon the relationships between the chords. You can have an idea of how music works and not be classically trained or bound by some set of rules. If someone feels bound by music theory they need to see a therapist. And if anyone's originality is hampered by learning something, they weren't all that original in the first place. There is a middleground between being trained at a conservatory and being an idiot savant.

JT says they're good. I did a recon mission. They are. Any thoughts? Here's a full live show of

So I love Easy Tiger. So I picked up Heartbreaker and Cold Roses. I think all three are solid top to bottom. But I know I've seen stuff RA has done on late night shows I've seen, before I knew how good he was, that I thought was lame. What should I check out next? btw Two on Leno last week was really good. I saw his Austin City Limits (the TV show) performance and that's what first turned me onto him. I was listening to a lot of Gram Parsons at the time and it fed exactly what I needed. The Cardinals are a really tight band.

i checked out all the bands he recommended. From the descriptions I figured I would like Battles the least but I'm really excited about them. I encourage anyone to check out clips on youtube because their live clips are ridiculous. It's like tortoise on speed. Well that doesn't do it justice. just check it out.

I had only seen the first 2: thanks i get and you are my face, until today. And if I feel like stealing a car and I start to hear wilco playing, doesn't that mean keep it up?

During the British Open they were plugging these hardcore. I'm still at the point where i'm just excited to hear wilco on the telebision. I gotta say all the ads are pretty harmless. The whole selling out argument seems ridiculous after actually seeing the ads.

Bravo. When do those toys start coming in happy meals?

The Thanks I Get is a bonus track to Sky Blue Sky. It is part of the enhanced content you must buy the album and put it into a computer connected to the internet. And LNGCA is still available through iTunes. It is the 13th track of Sky Blue Sky. LNGCA is alright. I like drum solos and it's a better rocker than I'm A Wheel. One True Vine is awesome, but it definitely has that bonus track feel; wouldn't have worked on the record. I think The Thanks I Get is better live than the recorded version.

Mike Andrews is amazing. I saw Greyboy Allstars recently (Mike Andrews band) and Gary Jules warmed up. Mike Andrews played with him a bunch. He's actually produced a lot of Gary Jules' stuff and the Allstars have played on some of his stuff especially Mike, Robert Walter, and Karl Denson.

But I didn't know Gary was in his 80s. Shows too long?

In case no one has seen this, I just came across this show from January where Stephen Malkmus plays 9 new songs. Some of the best stuff he's ever done. Seriously. Including Pavement. Maybe I was just jonesing for new material but I'm loving this. The tunes really rock and the quality is amazing. Enjoy

is the video being referred to here "hate it here" from shake it off?

Yeah, a vintage one would be great, but eBay can be a bit difficult since I live in Canada and most good finds are in the states and we get killed on duty, brokerage fees, etc. for things coming across the border. Any thoughts on who makes good mid-range lap steel new?

 

Out of curiousity, is it the case that most people use a volume pedal to get the really smooth attack on a note?

 

Cheers!

Yeah you're gonna want to get a volume pedal. Nels uses Ernie Ball. I use a Morley from the seventies which sounds really smooth.

If you're just starting out I would get an Artisan. You can get them through Musician's Friend for 60 USD. They're not the sturdiest, but they sound pretty good. If you like it then you can always find a vintage gibson or national. Make sure you have the right strings. If they're too light, they wont work. I would use at least 14 gauge with a wound G (For E-tuning), or you might find some lap steel string sets.

Just saw Love Liza for the first time last night. Really good movie. Jim O'Rourke does the score and a few acoustic tunes including halfway to a threeway. Philip Seymour Hoffman plus O'Rourke is an excellent combo. Highly recommend it.

i like glenn's bass drum picture thingie. Thank you.

that's deep

I don't know . . . with songs like D. Boone, If That's Allright, New Madrid and The Long Cut (just to name a few), I wouldn't call Tweedy a late bloomer. To this day, I don't think either Tweedy or Farrar has written a better song than Gun.

 

Of course, this is just the humble opinion of a pre-Wilco Tweedy fan (i.e. old) who reads this board every day but never posts. In fact, it took me 20 minutes to figure out to work this thing.

welcome

Do you have a video of this?