Ghost Of Bob Cumming

Nice little report. Thanks. Seriously thinking about going to the Newcastle show on Friday, though have to admit that not only am I limited to 1/2 Autumn Defense tracks from the CDs that come with Word magazine, but also that I'm not completely bowled over by those tracks. Shame about Wilco not coming back until next year now - I don't really mind waiting as long as we get some sort of attempt to actually cover a fair bit of the country (rather than 2 London gigs + a festival or two) to make up for the farce of last November.

Or possibly even in the UK?

Even odder, I'm pretty certain that my copy of BT was a US import purchased prior to the UK release date. Not that it changes the ranking, but I like to think of it as adding a little local flavour.

I meant to mention this months ago but forgot, but seeing as how this thread is back from the dead can I just point out that you're all looking at this entirely from a US perspective? We Europeans would rank the albums thus AM BT ST YHF AGIB SBS Pleased I could clear that up

Is anyone ITK enough to know if there are likely to be UK dates after that Irish gig that's been announced, or am I just waiting in vain? I'd kind of assumed that in an effort to make up for those cancelled shows last November plus the confirmation that they are coming across the Atlantic that something would have been rumoured/announced by now (after all, I think the November shows became common knowledge by the start of August - though it took a few more weeks for them to appear on Wilcoworld). The real problem is that even if some shows are announced I'm going to struggle to make anythi

I knew i should have checked that!

I believe I already started.

I applaud your effort, sir, but I'd be surprised if we see them back this year (we're not in Charlotte, after all)

I'm not 100% sure myself , but I'd be surprised (his Dad is obviously from the South East, judging purely by his accent).

Really????

Is A Woman gets my vote. Very laid-back and piano led, excellent. Or possibly that one with the squiggly line drawings cover (What Another Man Spills?). Perhaps controversially, I would leave Nixon until later. It got loads of hype upon release in the UK, but left me a bit cold.

LouieB, I agree with just about everything you've just said about Joe. How he is not much, much more widely known than he is, is simply bewildering. The run of splendid albums since Shuffletown is unparalled in my view (alright, so I slightly turn away when the subject of Fuse comes up - that was below par for him IMO). I too got into him at the time of Short Man's Room - that and Kindness Of The World blew me away. Wrote to him on 2/3 occasions around this time and he always sent a witty postcard in reply (though sadly, and due to circumstances beyond my control, I no longer have these). Sa

Yes. Lost Love, Can't Keep From Talking, and Please Tell My Brother all come from that album. There's also a song co-written with the lovely Rennie Sparks, that I can't remember the name of right now (and, in truth, is probably the poorest track on the album). Good album. My favourite track is Gary Louris' sublime Jennifer Save Me (also one of my wife's favourite songs, and she usually has limited interest in the music I like)

You're right. Actually, the vast majority of folks on here have been sympathetic. Many thanks (and apologies if I'm wearing your sympathy out). Once again, not a problem with any of that, and their right not to tell us any of that. But why not let people hang onto their tickets for a re-scheduling if it were for any reason(s) similar to this? Doesn't add up. And apologies again. I know your response that wasn't aimed at me specifically.

But what I was getting at was that I didn't suggest it So there is no ''also''

For me it's a combination of the management-speak/meaningless reason (that's why we all love rock 'n' roll, isn't it? For the 'conflicting schedules', the 'core demographics', etc ), and the fact that only refunds are being given. I've no problem with any reason they give if the shows were just to be re-scheduled, that would cover the 'mind your own business' angle someone else (sympathetically ) suggested, but other than a problem with the Academys it's a bit of a slap in the face.

People? I was merely suggeting that I don't think these particular dates will be re-scheduled, unless there's been a problem with the Academys. Otherwise, why not let people hang onto tickets (and thereby avoid them being charged for something they haven't actually got to see?).

Yes, I would assume so also. Then again, it is just a theory to fit the circumstances based on what little we have to go on. I did say I was clutching at straws. My gut feeling is they're not coming back

Apologies to anyone now bored with this thread, but how about this for a possibility... ...a fall-out/unresolvable dispute with the promoter/Academy Group (might they be one and the same?). That would explain the need to cancel all 4 UK shows and no others, and why we've been given no option to hang onto the tickets for re-scheduled shows. Also, there wouldn't have been time to move the shows to other venues??? I know, I'm probably clutching at straws, but other than this theory I can't figure out why we couldn't just hang onto the tickets if the tour really stands any chance of being re-s

Just in case the post about promoter v band hadn't put the 'poor ticket sales' theory to bed, I went to see Iron & Wine in Gateshead (next door to Newcastle) last night, and I was surprised to find the venue almost full - I reckon about 350 there. Now if Iron & Wine can sell 350, I reckon Wilco could sell 500-600 tickets at the very least, and while I think that would only half fill Newcastle Academy, I'm not sure you would cancel on that basis. Then again, Iron & Wine have played the North East before (unlike Wilco). BTW, Sam Beam & Co were fantastic (and Leroy Bach was pa

Thanks for the info. I've heard nothing re Newcastle either yet - though the automated message I mentioned before took about 2/3 days longer than if I'd just checked the Decemberists website. I think Welsh Rich is right we need to wait and see the real reason for the cancellation - I know t'internet was built for this sort of wild speculation, but let's take a deep breath, ey? (Having said that, could have done without the reason being given in meaningless 'management-speak')

Out of interest, did you have to ring up Ticketweb re the refund, or return the tickets? I booked via Ticketweb and did get an automated message from them about 24hrs before the Decemberists show saying it was cancelled, but I've had no confirmation of a refund (would be helpful iro Wilco also) - not sure if I need to do anything (I think the message said that my card would be automatically refunded - but I was to busy cursing the cancellation to hear it properly ). Pillowy Star - not everyone can make London shows. As mentioned, I have a young family, so never mind the expense issue, I can

"Hope to schedule new UK dates soon" doesn't sound too great to me, would have preferred "We will definitely re-schedule". But if they are re-scheduled can we still have the Newcastle date (it looked like it was a kind of last-minute addition this time around)? Wilco have to face the Geordies sooner or later. Also, anytime before June is better for me . Child no.2 will be arriving after that, so I probably won't be coming out for 4/5 years . Damn, I'm disappointed. Anyway, just to lighten the mood I'll leave you with these two notes from my 'gig history' (currently transferring from an A5

Seriously pissed off with this. Cancellation of the Newcastle date comes just 2 weeks after The Decemberists cancelled at the exact same venue...for the same reason! Site only mentions refunds, so looks like no re-scheduling anytime soon. Not surprised (but still disappointed) that Wilcoworld is slow - after all tickets had been on sale for most of these shows for a week or two before they appeared on the 'Shows' page. AAAAARRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!

Brian Henneman released a 3-track 7" single on Rockville (cat. Rockville 6088-7) in 1992 (so not post break-up). It featured 'Indianapolis', 'Get Down River', and 'Wave That Flag'. My understanding is that UT (Tweedy/Farrar/Heidorn) are the backing band on all of these tracks - pretty certain you can make out Tweedy supplying backing vocals on 'Indianapolis' at the very least (though can't be bothered actually listening to it right now) - that is only my understanding though, not 100% fact. 'Indianapolis' is a great (and funny) song, that I believe describes an actual incident when Henneman