bleedorange
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The funny thing to me is that I would be absolutely shocked if rap, hip-hop, disco, metal, soul, blues, pop, electronic, etc., were not included in the rock & roll hall of fame. I think all those genres are so intertwined with rock music that it would create a huge void in the history of rock & roll to not have them there.
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I think the term "rock and roll" casts a much wider net than some of you are willing to allow. It's not a narrow term.
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My personal list:
1. Box Full of Letters
2. Dash 7
3. Passenger Side
4. Misunderstood
5. Monday
6. Sunken Treasure
7. California Stars
8. Hoodoo Voodoo
9. Hesitating Beauty
10. Another Man's Done Gone
11. She's A Jar
12. A Shot in the Arm
13. I'm Always in Love
14. How to Fight Loneliness
15. Via Chicago
16. Candy floss
17. Airline to Heaven
18. Remember The Mountain Bed
19. Someday, Some Morning, Sometime
Disc 2
1. I Am Trying to Break Your Heart
2. War On War
3. Jesus, etc.
4. Ashes of American Flag
5. Poor Places
6. Hell Is Chrome
7. Handshake Drugs
8. Wishful Thinking
9. Theologians
10. Either Way
11. Impossible Germany
12. Side With the Seeds
13. On and On and On
14. One Wing
15. Bull Black Nova
16. Art of Almost
17. Dawned on Me
18. Born Alone
19. One Sunday Morning
I think you messed up somewhere. You only have three songs from Being There. And you accidentally typed in "Bull Black Nova." Pretty sure you meant something else.
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I think it's a nice release. It will be great to have these songs in one place. And, despite the fact I've heard all these songs, I'm anxious to purchase this. A lot of my copies of these songs are not of the best quality, if I own them at all.
Now, the greatest hits collection is not for me. But there are a lot of casual fans out there who might not be familiar with some of the earlier albums (as hard as that may be for us to comprehend).
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Why is this so under the radar? Where's the big announcement?
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I have never been to the RnR HOF, but I did recently go to the EMP museum in Seattle. That was extremely interesting. Not only a lot of music stuff, but pop culture and scifi too. Well worth it if you are in Seattle.
I love the EMP. Been there a couple of times.
I do not think Phish is HOF material.
My top five on that list would be Nine Inch Nails, Lou Reed, The Smiths, Kraftwerk, N.W.A.
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I'm willing to entertain negative criticism of art that I like. The problem with that guy's criticism is that it's not very good. At first I wondered if he was going to mention any songs, and then I realized there was a link to the actual review in that post (blog, whatever that was?). He mentioned about 3 of 20 songs in the review, and spent most of it projecting what he thinks Tweedy thinks and why Tweedy is wrong. He also spent time on what he thinks Tweedy's fans think, and why they're wrong.
Oh internet.
Ugh. Was that even a review? Apparently, he said this would be a bad album and then wrote a review saying it was a bad album. See! He called it! How does someone like this even get a voice? There is certainly room for criticism, but that's not what this is.
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I'll take either over WTA or the back half of SBS.
That's saying very little, though.
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I think I've watched the Inherent Vice trailer 10 times now. I can't wait for this movie.
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I think the clear standout track here is "World Away." There's a looseness to it that I think has sorely been missing from recent Wilco albums.
"Nobody Dies Anymore" is a close second for me.
After listening to the album a few times, I think it's pretty strong overall, although the length and the addition of some mediocre songs would prevent it from being something I reached for on a consistent basis.
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The text itself was reasonably positive, but the rating seems low. 3.5 out of 5. It's like a 70 on a test. Barely passing. I didn't think the narrative matched the numerical score.
I don't think you can draw a reasonable comparison between a test score and an album rating, though. By that logic, anything rated at 3 stars or less would be "failing" and I don't think critics think in that manner. In this instance 3.5 out of 5 is very positive.
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It's the one music band that everyone thinks everybody likes.
Think of pop soda? The first product that comes to mind is Coca-Cola. Think of jeans, pizza or shampoo? Levi's, Domino's and Head and Shoulders. Remember what they said of computer professionals, that nobody will ever be criticised for purchasing IBM computers or software?
So, I think very much the general sentiment is that everyone likes U2 and is more or less the favourite band of almost every regular person out there. That's why Apple felt it correct to put the album in people's download libraries without asking.
I welcome Apple to do this to my library a lot more often.
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It boggles my mind American Songwriter rated it as low as they did.
Huh? That was a very positive review.
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That score is probably a tad low, but I think he makes some excellent points. I definitely want more Spencer on this album as it rolled into the second half of songs that felt mostly interchangeable. His contributions were exceptional and really surprised me, but he's missing on too many songs.
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The scores from Pitchfork can be a little all over the map. But I don't know what kind of staff turnover the site has, which could make a difference in how an artist is perceived over time. I think they're more trustworthy than most people give them credit for, and they don't reserve their high scores solely for up-and-coming artists. For instance, just this year, Spoon got an 8.6 and a Best New Music tag for They Want My Soul.
Also, you do have to pay attention to the byline. Stephen Deusner is one of their better critics. Same goes for Steven Hyden when he sometimes reviews an album (although, writing for Grantland now means fewer reviews, I think).
The reviews so far seem about right. I think over time this album will ultimately be judged on whether it was a good idea to include 20 songs on it, and whether those lesser songs become essential in a way.
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Here's a technical question, since I don't have a ton of expertise in this area. I've listened to the stream through my computer on headphones and in my car through the NPR Music app on my phone. Both times, the vocals seemed really muted and I was having trouble making out a lot of the lyrics.
1) Is this intentional?
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2) Is this merely a result of a mediocre sound card on my computer and listening through the app? (Although, other streams through that app haven't been bad.)
I'm just wondering if I should try to listen to the stream again or just wait until next week when I get the album.
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I think that's ridiculous. Oh no! I got a free album! The horror!
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es·sen·tial
adjective \i-ˈsen(t)-shəl\
: extremely important and necessary; basic, indispensable
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All this thread has proven is that "essential" albums made by people over 50 simply do not exist.
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I listened to it once and actually thought it was pretty good. I'll need to confirm that. Definitely better than their last two, which I thought were terrible. ATYCLB wasn't bad, but I think Pop and Zooropa are excellent.
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From U2's website:
On October 13th the physical release of Songs of Innocence comes with a 24-page booklet. A deluxe, gatefold double album, contains an acoustic session of songs from the album and four additional tracks: Lucifer's Hands, The Crystal Ballroom, The Troubles (Alternative version) and Sleep Like a Baby Tonight (Alternative Perspective Mix by Tchad Blake)
The album will also be available as a gatefold, double white-vinyl LP with an exclusive remix of "The Crystal Ballroom". -
Has anything from W(TA) showed up on this mini tour yet? I'm really hoping bull black nova makes its way back into rotation.
Not yet... I'd love to see lots of that album showing up in the sets of the upcoming "An Evening With Wilco" shows...
Ugh. Please stop requesting these types of songs. We don't want to encourage Wilco to make more of them.
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When did Wilco tickets get so expensive???
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This is the correct view on this. If you're on a Wilco message board, a Best Of collection isn't for you. Why would it bother you that it's being released to bring new fans into the fold. There were countless classic rock artists I discovered through their Greatest Hits and often waited years before exploring their other stuff.
As for the shows, I would love to celebrate Wilco's 20 anniversary with them on my 20th wedding anniversary at the Ryman on 10/22. Unfortunately, lack of funds and wife's interest in Wilco make this very unlikely.
It's a different time now. With iTunes and Spotify and pandora, there is no need or market for a greatest hits collection. The only people who would purchase one are completist fans. That's why the whole idea of one rubs me the wrong way.
Politics 2014
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Where do these numbers come from? The only thing I have seen is that they estimate it will hit 9,000 total cases by the end of the week. That's a total. Not a per-week basis.