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  1. Hey now!

     

    I found this on another site out there on the internets, thought it may be of some interest to folks here. Pardon if this is old news......I hadnt heard of this til now.

     

     

    http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=4064.

     

     

    Wilco

    Yankee Hotel Foxtrot Demos

     

     

    01 - I Am Trying to Break Your Heart

    02 - Ashes of American Flags

    03 - I'm The Man Who Loves You

    04 - Magazine Called Sunset

    05 - Reservations

    06 - Kamera

    07 - Not For the Season

    08 - Alone

    09 - Nothing Up My Sleeve

    10 - Venus Stop the Train

    11 - Rhythm

    12 - Poor Places

    13 - Won't You Let Down

    14 - Heavy Metal Drummer

    15 - Instrumental 1

    16 - Instrumental 2

    17 - Instrumental 2 (alternate)

    18 - Kamera (alternate)

    19 - Magazine Called Sunset (alternate)

    20 - Alone (alternate)

    21 - Not For the Season (alternate)

     

     

    Story from...

    http://www.neumu.net/drama/2002/2002-00030...030_drama.shtml

     

     

    Wilco's "Basement Tapes"

     

     

    The "YHF Demos" are the great lost Wilco album -- now if only someone

    would release them.

     

     

    The ink that says "Wilco YHF Demos" is slightly smeared on the home-

    printed white cover of the CD that arrived the other day. The 21 songs

    on this "Basement Tapes" CD, sent from a friend, were downloaded as

    MP3 files from some Web location.

     

     

    I don't use the phrase "Basement Tapes" lightly. It's an intentional

    reference to the recordings Bob Dylan and The Band made up in

    Woodstock in the late '60s. At an hour and 15 minutes, this is Yankee

    Hotel Foxtrot as a two-record set. But it's also much more expansive,

    and not just because of length. It is an amazing album, and I

    certainly hope that Wilco will choose to release it. I find it

    captivating in a way that the official album isn't -- probably due to

    the inclusion of "Venus Stop the Train" and some others that didn't

    make it onto the completed album. But also because, from start to

    finish, it works as an album, as a body of work that I want to hear

    all the way from track one -- a version of "I Am Trying to Break Your

    Heart" -- through an alternate take of "Not for the Season."

     

     

    With Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, Jeff Tweedy drew a line in the sand. No, he

    was not that alt-country guy you wanted him to be. If you thought

    Summerteeth was just a diversion, think again, he seemed to be saying.

    Yankee Hotel Foxtrot is, perhaps, his way of declaring himself a major

    artist, as daring as those who clearly have inspired him, including

    The Beatles and Brian Wilson. An artist not content to work within the

    established structures and sounds that define musical genres.

     

     

    So he started fucking with the material, adding odd sounds,

    deconstructing songs, creating a kind of art piece. And he was

    successful. The album is good, and the world now sees him as a very

    different kind of artist than they did before.

     

     

    Only, for me, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot turned out to be one of those

    albums that you appreciate intellectually, that you know is "good" and

    that you should like, only you never seem to play it. Or you play a

    couple of songs, but don't listen through from start to finish. Well,

    don't know about you, maybe you played your copy to death, but I've

    hardly played mine since my initial attempts to dig into it.

     

     

    I must add that, because of all the drama surrounding the official

    album -- record company politics that found one AOL Time Warner label

    dropping the band while another signed them up -- my initial experience

    of the album was a letdown.

     

     

    The YHF demos are something else. With no real expectations, I put the

    CD in my car stereo on my way home from the post office the other day,

    and I've been playing it incessantly ever since. It's hard to

    generalize, but a lot of this album seems to be lamenting a romance

    that didn't work out; beyond that, Tweedy seems to be catching the

    disillusionment that many feel now -- both disillusionment and

    nostalgia for a past that we likely recall via romanticized memories

    ("Heavy Metal Drummer"). "I miss the innocence I've known/ Playing

    Kiss covers, beautiful and stoned," he sings in "Heavy Metal Drummer,"

    a different version of the song that appeared on Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.

     

     

    It's not that these demos are stripped down. They're not (or at least

    some of them aren't), and thus they feel more organic. It's just that,

    for the most part, the arrangements are more... traditional. "Alone,"

    for example, a song that didn't make it onto the official album, rocks

    along to an old-time melody and some honky-tonk. It has the feel of

    Dylan and The Band doing "Don't Ya Tell Henry."

     

     

    "Nothing Up My Sleeve," also not on Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, is a folk-

    rocker with double-tracked vocals, just a single acoustic guitar for

    accompaniment and a Beatles-esque melody. Won't Let You Down is like

    the Rolling Stones doing country-rock. The lyric is simple, almost a

    clich

  2. So those of you that have spent time at the theatre please tell me is there a sweet spot for sound? Are the sight lines good? Will a Cali girl have to freeze to see? Can hardly wait to see you guys :pirate

     

    Jayne, I'm not sure there is a "sweet spot" for sound in the Riv. Try hanging close to the soundboard, prolly as good as it gets. While the overall sound at the Riv is passable, just be glad the shows arent at the Aragon. Have fun!

  3. What's the deal on the show I heard about recently where Brent had some sort of meltdown? It's up at archive.org.

     

    I heard about that show not too long ago via the GD room on usenet (great site btw, good people there). It was said that Brent was pretty obviously drunk n sloppy during that show and he did have a bit of a breakdown during one particular song, sorry, dont recall which one.

  4. Yeah, Miller rocks. He's tireless in his efforts.

     

    Last weekend I was listening to 2/14/68-not Charlies clean up version but good enough-and that feedback towards the end of the show more or less melted my face off. Cripes, the 'X' factor was in force that night......wish I could find more shows with an ending like that!

  5. FYI....a new Charlie Miller clean-up has appeared recently......do with it what you will......my sources say he also did 2/14/68 recently as well.....

     

    Grateful Dead - June 18, 1974

    Freedom Hall - Louisville, KY

     

    Recording Info:

    SBD -> Master Reel -> Cassette -> Dat -> SHN -> Cool Edit Pro -> CD

    http://www.shnflac.net/details.php?id=8898...7aae877b46cab...

     

     

    Transfer Info:

    CD -> Samplitude Professional v10.02 -> FLAC

    (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC)

     

     

    All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller

    charliemille...@earthlink.net

    January 27, 2008

     

     

    Notes:

    -- Set 2 is seamless

    -- This is a remaster of shnid=32528

    -- I worked on the levels, removed the DC Offset and cleaned up a few things

    -- Thanks to everyone who worked on this before me...it sounds great

     

     

    Set 1:

    d1t01 - The Promised Land

    d1t02 - It Must Have Been The Roses

    d1t03 - Black Throated Wind

    d1t04 - Ramble On Rose

    d1t05 - Beat It On Down The Line

    d1t06 - Loser

    d1t07 - Mexicali Blues

    d1t08 - Eyes Of The World ->

    d1t09 - China Doll

    d1t10 - Around And Around

     

     

    Set 2:

    d2t01 - Loose Lucy

    d2t02 - El Paso

    d2t03 - Row Jimmy

    d2t04 - Weather Report Suite ->

    d2t05 - The Other One ->

    d2t06 - It's A Sin Jam ->

    d2t07 - Stella Blue

    d2t08 - Big River

    d3t01 - Tennessee Jed

    d3t02 - Sugar Magnolia

     

     

    Encore:

    d3t03 - Morning Dew

  6. Vincent was the 'numb nut' in Full Metal Jacket??

     

    Wow, I never, ever would've known that.

     

    He's a pretty good actor.....and good on L&O.........I'm curious though.......was he in prison in last nites episode due to criminal behaviour?

     

    Oh yeah....yep, he was in Salton Sea....the meth dealer with the metal nose.

  7. Yeah, I agree. I saw Son Volt about a year and a half ago, and I've never been so bored at a show! But if you want to listen to a band that just creates the same album (and I'd argue, the same SONG) over and over, go listen to them.

     

    I'm glad the Wilco hasn't stayed stuck in the A.M. and Being There sound. I love those albums, but I don't need to own lots of albums from one band if every album sounds the same. I like Wilco's new stuff, and their changing sound has kept me interested in the band.

     

    That said, it's not like I'm all Wilco all the time (although I have had those phases). Got to mix it up a little! Listen to anything constantly and it starts to get old.

     

    I saw Son Volt back in the late 90s...Martyrs and then a couple weeks later at the Congress. Wow, what boring shows, snoozeville. If I didnt have tix to the Congress show, I wouldnt have gone. But will I listen to Trace or Straightaways? You betcha brother.

  8. Anyone besides me think that Wilco's tunes played 'live' are way, way, WAAAAAAY better than their studio versions? Hear me out......over the summer, I scored Being There at a garage sale for a buck. I'd never listened to the album before but was familiar with many of the tunes on it because I'd heard a whole lot of recordings of their live shows. While listening to the album, I was shocked at how trite some of the songs sounded. I was shocked at the overall production value of the album. If I was introduced to Wilco via their recorded albums like Being There rather than their live work, I'd of never given them another listen. Matter of fact, Being There is still perched by the stereo, begging for another listen.....given a choice of that or a field recording from 2003.......the field recording would win every time.

     

    Who's with me or should I cower in seclusion until the impending tempest blows over?

  9. Oh. My. Gawd!

     

    Hesitating Beauty is a Woody G. tune?

     

    I always thought it was penned by JT.

     

    I love, LOVE, that song..... especially this lyric "I'll kiss you for each leaf on every tree"....what a neat way to profess one's deep love for another....

     

    I guess I gotta get the Mermaid albums now....I wonder why I delayed in doing so....

  10. Thanks. I drew it as a t-shirt design in 87 or 88, and fleshed it out for the round sticker around '90. Me and a bunch of friends printed up several bunches of them over the next few years and rarely had to pay for burritos, beers or falafels, and 3a.m. grilled cheeseses. Submitted it to the Dead's people, but they said they were more into cute dancing bears snow skiing at the time. And I wasn't, so...

     

    I've only printed them once since Jerry died. I've got maybe a dozen or so left. Lammy, I won't sell them to you, but if you wanted to trade some music you like, that would be cool. I've gotten so busy with art and kids I've lost my memberships at torrent sites due to inactivity. :(

     

    I was just wondering if I talked to any of you guys on tour, as I got to meet a lot of people through my art that way. And see a lot of great shows. :cheers

     

    Yeah, that'd be cool if I bought it from you. All my shows were in the Midwest except one at Foxboro, MA, 87 thru 95.

     

    Back then, I worked at a road construction company, that had a side business of producing road signs. I made a lot of street signs like 'Golden Road' or 'Dead Highway' and whatnot to bring and trade for other goods. They went pretty fast too. I actually got busted by GD Productions at Alpine, who took a bunch of my stock because I wasnt licensed to sell or didnt have copyright authority or something like that.

     

    Ok, now I have the memory juices flowing........in 88, I was sitting in the shade on the side of the lot at Alpine-it was super hot that day-and what do I see? One of my professors (I had recently finished his course about Hitler and the mother complex that drove him in his attempt to conquor the world) strolling thru the masses, who then stopped and purchased something from a wookie...and then proceeded to pop it on his tongue.....heh heh....even the higher minds like their mind high on occasion, eh?

  11. I saw UT once in the early 90s. Lounge Ax in Chicago. I dragged a bunch of my pals with. I dont recall much which means I was most likely stoned to bejesus. Back then I used to get, honest to god, G-13, indoor grown, that made remembering things and driving cars very difficult. It was very crowded and smokey. I do seem to recall the band all wearing flannel which wasnt that remarkable since it seemed all the bands and cool kids wore flannel back then. They were loud but most bands were loud at Lounge Ax. They just didnt strike me as anything all that special. They were fun but overall, meh. After the band was all kaput, then Trace (thats Jays first one, right?) came out. Thats when my ears perked up and I started digging in UTs back catalog and I realized I shoulda been paying a bit more attention to the band and less attention to whatever honey I was trying to smooze that nite. I have a boot of the show I'm pretty sure I saw....bad recording though. RIP Lounge Ax, man did I see some great bands there...

  12. Thus the rule no shows east of the 5 :pirate

     

    Which of course I broke every year to go to Alpine and Vegas...Gotta say the first time they played Deer Creek was amazing Close Encounters of the Third Kind during space into the most amazing China Doll. Thanks for the link the Jerry Art interview was delightful!!!

     

    Yeah, that Deer Creek show was a good'un. Nice venue, similar to the old Poplar Creek. Quick story about events surrounding that show......we drove down the night before and pulled into a farm road in the middle of nowhere to party and sleep. The next morning, we were woken up by a State Trooper, who was knocking his flashlight on the hood and saying "This is not a hassle".....he wanted us to split before an angry farmer came after us with his shootin' iron.

     

    So we saw the show and being rather tired afterwards, decided to sleep in the car right there in the lot, even though the stated policy was 'No Camping'. Well, wouldnt you know it, the same State Trooper woke us up again and this time asked if we had narcolepsy, a smile on his face the whole time. We took his gentle encourgement to heart and hit the road back to Chicago.........a kind cop :thumbup he really could've worked us over if he wanted to.....

  13. The Nilsson song I know best is one he covered (though it's sometimes mistakenly attributed to him), and it's one of my favorite songs of all time: "Everybody's Talkin'"

     

    Of course, I don't actually possess a copy of the Nilsson version ... just the Fred Neil original and three or four other cover versions.

     

    Everybodys Talking is a great tune....

     

    Who sang it for Midnight Cowboy?

     

    I think I have a copy of the Meat Puppets singing 'Everybodys Talkin' somewhere...

  14. Yeah, it's really sad that huge chunks of stuff from Brent's first 4 years are not in the Vault. They just didn't give a shit at the time. Thank God Dick Latvala came on board in '84 or so.

     

    I know a guy who believes that 84 was one of the top years in the GD canon.....and he prefers the aud tapes over the boards. Crazy, eh?

  15. :lol Just an old two tone green Ford Club Wagon. Would seat 8 people easily.

     

    That run was like a Woodstock experience...after the first night it started to rain and just kept it up for the next 48 hours. The third night was played in a total downpour. I had no rain gear, just two trash bags I fashioned into a jacket and bottoms. During Sugaree when JG sings "in spite of all you've gained you still have to stand out in the pouring rain" I just cracked up at the ridiculousness of it all. Of course, my brains were pretty loose by that point. :shifty

     

    Thanks to that rain, I had a creek running through my tent. That made sleeping somewhat difficult so four of us attempted to sleep in a early 80s Toyota Celica hatchback instead. Looking back, the tent would've been more comfortable. It didnt really matter though.....the free-form pharmacy all around us made the situation tolerable. :shifty

  16. It did get pretty crazy....I stopped going to shows in 92 or so and only went to JGB shows....great tunes different vibe. I remember the good old days back in late 70's early 80's when you could walk up to the arena the night of a show and get a ticket, no one was getting too crazy, and the vibe was way more mellow......whattya gonna do?

     

    I stopped making any effort to see them after I had a fence pushed down on me by gatecrashers at Foxboro, MA in 90 or 91. I was bleeding the entire show. I still got the dang 3 inch scar on my bicep. Out of the hundreds of concerts and shows I've seen since 1981, that was the only time I ever got hurt (except the bloody nose I got in a mosh pit during a Beastie Boys show at the Aragon but that doesnt really count). Stoooopid gatecrashers. All in all, almost all my memories of following those guys around were rather pleasant especially the Alpine runs. Gone are the days......

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