Vacant Horizon

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this is interesting. however, i think it will probably go the way of sacd, dts, and dvd-audio. not to mention that inability of blueray to catch on. how many times are the music industry folks gonna try to get people to re-buy albums? didn't john mellencamp's last album come out in some new format too? whatever, if you love the song, you'll listen to any shit version.

i actually like under the red sky. the production is bright and fun. of course i hated it when it came out. i was steeped in 70s production and couldn't believe the state of music production in 80s-90s. however, not that my pallet has 'matured' i actually like the album. my attempts with dylan are to focus on lyrics, then music, then voice, then production. in that order, every album can reveal itself to be quite good.

well, pat is not essential.

no way! no weir or garcia? you missing out dude.

oh zoey...mmmmmmmmmmmmmahhhhhhhhhh.

well, i remember back in the early 90s the advent of selling used cds caused a big stir in music industry. i seem to remember garth brooks being pissed about it. anyway, that died down. of course the record companies lost money, but damn, the stuff people were selling back was complete crap. not to mention the fact that the advent of the cd and the constant reissues and remasters has resulted in continued gains for the business as people replaced albums multiple times. i think that is happening again with digital downloads. people, like me, remember an album they had in high school that

what's amazing about these dudes is that there are three of them in the same town who actually 'get' music at that age. it took me years to develop any real musical sense on guitar. they are great, and i love that they don't have a keyboard player. that would lead to cheese i'm sure.

http://www.glidemagazine.com/articles/5458...ic-artists.html an article about CDbaby kicking ass! i really don't think cds will go away. there's still gonna be folks that want a hard copy that's not vinyl. i can't really think of an artist i'm desperate to have a hard copy of anymore...neil young archive 2 maybe. one point i was thinking about is this notion that the artists and record companies are in trouble because of pirating. i really don't think this is true. folks who like a band will support that artist legitimately. this is obvious since the bands we like on this board are

i'm loving it too. i'm hoping this album really makes dylan click for me.

um, garfield, not funny.

okay, so my experience is usually that these sets are not worth it. the 'extras' just aren't that great and they just sit on a shelf. i might look at it once a year. case in point, the sojourner's magnolia electric co box set. of course, their best album, nashville moon was in there, but they should've just released that. here's an idea, how about a band focus on making a really good album rather than dressing it up with a bunch of extra crap. less is more when it comes to rock as far as i am concerned. interesting article though. trent reznor's got it right i think...

yep

criminals okay for uber indie stuff. they're not going any where soon as they're in a prime location in little 5. i was referring to decatur CD and wuxtry. god if you don't go in to these places and feel like tool immediately. NOW, these are my experiences. i'm sure others are different and they just love these stores. to each his own.

my point is that we live in a society that seems to value ROCK STARS more than stay at home moms and dad by virtue of how much money we are willing to spend on these folks. until our values change, then it'll stay the same. i have choice to pay for tix or not, thank goodness.

i didn't like him when he was with son volt either.

well, we have a few indie shops where i live. the one opened in 04. initially the guy was great. gave a good price on used cds, focused on what his customers wanted etc. after a while, he quit paying attention to anyone that wasn't a hipster. the place has become a bastion for pretention and the clerk is an utter asshole. that being said, the place is always packed on the weekends. so, good for him. now, this change occurred as digital music was becoming more and more available and i just decided to stop the hassle of going to the store and just get stuff online. there's another store

that's my point exactly. also, i'm making no point about 'capitalism shriveling up because of me'. don't know where you got that.

i find isbell to be completely uninspired and derivative. maybe i need to check it out again. his keyboard player bugs the hell out of me.

well, i could give a shit about john mellencamp. never liked him and never will. he does make TOO much money and it's hard for me to have sympathy for him or any other big artist. interestingly, as this is all going on in the market, i've basically changed my music habits back to the way i was in high school. for years i was buying too much music and seeing too much music that i had not much more than an ancillary interest in. now, i just can't keep up. so, i've basically settled on about 10 artists that i usually end up playing anyway. at the same time, GOOD new music just seems to com

well, DBT albums are too long and very difficult to get into for me. if one just loves patterson's songs then DBT are heaven. i'm still waiting for them to do a tight 10 song album that totally rocks. a masterpiece with 4 cooley songs, 4 patterson songs and 2 shonna songs. there's a point of diminished returns in song writing i think. you've gotta write a bunch of shit to get to the gems. for me, it's about every 3rd song. given that, patterson really needs to pick his best songs. i love that song righteous path from BTCD. he wrote that at the end of recording that album. it seems th

i basically think we all need to quit going to concerts and buying cds until the prices come down. cds should be 10 bucks, album downloads 5 bucks and concert tickets should not be more than 30 bucks. also, i can see bands having some sort of subscriptions service where you pledge 10 bucks a month and get a bunch of shit. i would do that with wilco. AND, any bands that play small venues have to start shows earlier than midnight. i'm thinking 7pm. or do two shows. i would support and probably get into a lot more bands if it wasn't such a hassle to see them not to mention buy a cd from so

thanks for posting this. i will read and comment later.