So, I'm reading "Wilco: Learning How to Die"

[ction]

Wrong answer.

[caliber66]

I believe it to,but whats the point in talking about it 12 years after the fact,I guess thats how I saw it as not letting go.

That interview was not long after the Kot book came out, and Son Volt had recently released a new album or two. I'm sure there were more interviews than Jay was getting while he was putting out solo albums, and I'm sure they were all asking for his response to the version of events Kot presented. So he decided he was sick of deflecting the questions and answered them.

[Spawn's dad]

I believe it to,but whats the point in talking about it 12 years after the fact,I guess thats how I saw it as not letting go.

 

 

but why was it ok for Jeff to talk about it?

 

Maybe after 12 years of people asking when the band's getting back together eventually you go, 'you know, the guy hit on my GF (now wife) so I think we'll all just move past that and do our own thing.'

 

shrug. what do I know. there are people I was friends with in HS or college that I wouldn't want to be friends with again because of things that happened. That isn't to say that they haven't grown, or I haven't, or that what happened is in any way relevant anymore but that somethings you just don't need to go back to. That's not hanging on to stuff.

[WaronWar]

Plus, he presents Jeff's side of the Uncle Tupelo breakup. That didn't really have anything to do with the music Wilco makes, but don't let that get in the way of making your point.

 

If Jay didn't mentioned till I believe the september/october 2005 interview that Tweedy's desire to have his girlfriend was the result of the breakup. What was his excuse before?

 

I mean I have a hard time believing a guy that tells the "truth" behind everything after 11 years have passed. Plus, I would believe what occured in the Wilco book as more of the truth because Kot is a journalist. He loves Wilco, but he's a journalist first. He loves journalism and he did well over 50 interviews finding out the facts from other people besides Jeff. And would not say that the book is Wilco friendly because as a previous poster mentioned: Jeff does get portrayed as an ass sometimes. For instance, the way he handed Ken Coomer leaving the band.

[caliber66]

If Jay didn't mentioned till I believe the september/october 2005 interview that Tweedy's desire to have his girlfriend was the result of the breakup. What was his excuse before?

 

I mean I have a hard time believing a guy that tells the "truth" behind everything after 11 years have passed. Plus, I would believe what occured in the Wilco book as more of the truth because Kot is a journalist. He loves Wilco, but he's a journalist first. He loves journalism and he did well over 50 interviews finding out the facts from other people besides Jeff. And would not say that the book is Wilco friendly because as a previous poster mentioned: Jeff does get portrayed as an ass sometimes. For instance, the way he handed Ken Coomer leaving the band.

Wasn't the person Jay spoke to a journalist?

 

Just because Kot portrayed some things Jeff did in a negative light, that doesn't mean he had the whole story about everything. If you want to know why Jay waited until 2005 to discuss the breakup of Uncle Tupelo, you're going to have to ask him. He doesn't talk about much of anything, so his decision not to talk about it doesn't surprise me in the least. Perhaps he didn't want to air his dirty laundry, but got tired of deflecting questions and decided to answer them. He's allowed to change his mind, right?

[WaronWar]

 

That's a pretty incoherent post for someone who just called someone else a dumbass.

 

I meant "The book is not about Wilco" as its not actually about the band itself, but the music they create.

[caliber66]

I meant "The book is not about Wilco" as its not actually about the band itself, but the music they create.

Again, if that's the case, what's the stuff about Uncle Tupelo doing in there?

[WaronWar]

There is no music from Wilco without Uncle Tupelo.

[caliber66]

What does the breakup of Uncle Tupelo have to do with the music Uncle Tupelo made? If you're making the case that the book is about the music they make and not the history of the band, then what is band history stuff doing in the book?

[oceanman]

but why was it ok for Jeff to talk about it?

 

Maybe after 12 years of people asking when the band's getting back together eventually you go, 'you know, the guy hit on my GF (now wife) so I think we'll all just move past that and do our own thing.'

 

shrug. what do I know. there are people I was friends with in HS or college that I wouldn't want to be friends with again because of things that happened. That isn't to say that they haven't grown, or I haven't, or that what happened is in any way relevant anymore but that somethings you just don't need to go back to. That's not hanging on to stuff.

It's not wrong or right,I just like how Jeff is really open,just my opinion.If UT's reunion comes down to that fact,then Jay is way too insecure,but that has nothing to do with it,their grown men,let by gones be.I guess It's hard to read Jay,he really hides his physical emotions, not right or wrong,just hard for me to side with someone that hides his feelings.I only really have one side to this story,and I happen to share alot in common with Tweedy.

[caliber66]

WEEN ROCKS

I remember when that dude wanted to sell that other dude a chicken with poison interlaced with the meat. That didn't show up in the Kot book, though, because the one dude was on the run for killing the other dude's brother, when in fact it was the other dude who killed him. Then he kept silent about it for a decade, and when he finally talked about it, nobody believed him.

[WaronWar]

The breakup of Uncle Tupelo has to do with the music they make because without a breakup they would still be making music. So one has to explain why the broke up, which we obviously disagree on.

 

If a history of a band is not put into a book, then readers would never know what caused Wilco to make their music. If Kot did not explained about the history of Uncle Tupelo, readers would have never known how Tweedy started to become what he is musically today. For example, via Uncle Tupelo, Kot explains Tweedy started to craft his own voice, which is shown through his stronger confidence in Jeff's writing for "Anodyne"

[oceanman]

AM was UT's next album,it's just that simple!

[caliber66]

The breakup of Uncle Tupelo has to do with the music they make because without a breakup they would still be making music. So one has to explain why the broke up, which we obviously disagree on.

 

If a history of a band is not put into a book, then readers would never know what caused Wilco to make their music. If Kot did not explained about the history of Uncle Tupelo, readers would have never known how Tweedy started to become what he is musically today. For example, via Uncle Tupelo, Kot explains Tweedy started to craft his own voice, which is shown through his stronger confidence in Jeff's writing for "Anodyne"

Uncle Tupelo - Jeff was in a band with another guy, and then they broke up for whatever reason. Then they started making music like this.

 

What do the particulars of the UT breakup (correct or not) have to do with the music Wilco makes now?

[Spawn's dad]

It's not wrong or right,I just like how Jeff is really open,just my opinion.If UT's reunion comes down to that fact,then Jay is way too insecure,but that has nothing to do with it,their grown men,let by gones be.I guess It's hard to read Jay,he really hides his physical emotions, not right or wrong,just hard for me to side with someone that hides his feelings.I only really have one side to this story,and I happen to share alot in common with Tweedy.

 

 

if a friend of mine hit on my GF who I subsequently married I can't envision a scenario where we would be friends again at a later date. Particularly if on some level my wife was uncomfortable with it . For you to say who should be ok with what as regards people's emotions and personal lives is a bit too judgmental for my tastes.

[WaronWar]

Well here's the list of Wilco's list of albums (no Mermaid Avenue)

 

A.M.- Swansong of Anodyne

 

Being There- Rock and Roll (its all over the place with styles) and Jeff was pissed off of being labeled another alt-country guy.

 

Summerteeth-Pop

 

YHF- Lots of sonics

 

AGIB- Art Rock

 

SBS- Soul and 70's mainstream feel.

 

If Uncle Tupelo did not break up, none of this would have happened. Got to go.

[caliber66]

Well here's the list of Wilco's list of albums (no Mermaid Avenue)

 

A.M.- Swansong of Anodyne

 

Being There- Rock and Roll (its all over the place with styles) and Jeff was pissed off of being labeled another alt-country guy.

 

Summerteeth-Pop

 

YHF- Lots of sonics

 

AGIB- Art Rock

 

SBS- Soul and 70's mainstream feel.

 

If Uncle Tupelo did not break up, none of this would have happened. Got to go.

I have no idea what this has to do with Jay Farrar explaining his side of the UT breakup, but okay. And the book is most assuredly just as much about the band and its dynamics as it is about the music Wilco makes/made. Again, somewhat irrelevant to the discussion of, and the veracity of Jay's claims regarding, UT's breakup.

[cryptique]

Hopefully someone will call someone else another rude name soon.

[ction]

Hopefully someone will call someone else another rude name soon.

 

Stop being so dumb, you big dumb dummy.

[yermom]

you are all a bunch of "highly messed up freaks?"

[embiggen]

"highy"

[plasticeyeball]

dumbass

[oceanman]

For you to say who should be ok with what as regards people's emotions and personal lives is a bit too judgmental for my tastes.

Not judgemental,just my thoughts.It's fine how Jay deals with these issues,my life is too short to dwell on small details.A UT reunion would ruin Wilco.Not looking for any real answer here,I got what I wanted,I love Wilco. Son Volt is as good as ever,Jay is really starting to come out of his shell............great shit.Not judging you either,different strokes for different folks,it was really hard for me to let things go,I did and it made me a better person,I needed that,others don't,thats cool with me.If I can't forgive ,I can't forget,I'm a mess with shit like this,it's just the way I see it and deal with it,call me insecure or whatever,it's how I was made,I look down on nobody.I'm not ok with certain actions taken towards me,just ok with myself.

[OOO]

a chicken with poison interlaced with the meat.

 

I love that line.

 

And the song.

[yermom]

dumbass

retard