TimL Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 I love wilco, and am putting a project togehter to gather ALL the covers/b-sides/rarities in a collection, and make it available to fans. Would you be willing to help me out with it? Basically, i'm making a list of the songs i need to complete the collection, and then if you have any/some/all of those songs on your bootlegs, you can either email me the MP3 or send it on a cdr in the mail (i'll pay for B&P), and then those songs will be crossed off the list. This is going to be a HUGE project, but i think that with the amazing fan base, it can and will get finished. I'll then make sure that anyone who helped out w/ the project gets a final copy for their collection. Thanks for your time! Cheers,TimAny questions, please email me: (tim_layton@yahoo.com) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 Why MP3? I might be interested in participating in some kind of trading vine for such a collection, but only if it was from lossless sources. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 other projects already done to some degree Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest tandylacker Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Yeah f**k off you unoriginal idea mp3 a**h*le! Also, analogman, how much time do you spend a day linking to other topics in this forum? You must be pretty quick at it........... And here's a reply to something you said in another topic, maybe you can link to it. It's not that people don't know how to use Google. They will keep coming to message boards to ask stupid questions. They need the companionship. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TCP Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I am very sick of opening a topic and seeing a certain poster coming up with multiple links of similar topics. I think Analogman needs to find his Analogwoman. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Truth be told, lots of the time he's providing a very useful service. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TCP Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I know he's trying to "help" the community or whatever but really, when it's someones second post, cut them a break. He's probably doing more damage to the community, scaring new people away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I know he's trying to "help" the community or whatever but really, when it's someones second post, cut them a break. He's probably doing more damage to the community, scaring new people away. In lots of cases I agree, like linking to posts from last october on topics that are bound to come up every 6 months or so. But in this case id say Analogman's post was on-topic and helpful, considering plenty of people have already put in a lot of time collecting and posting the rare wilco songs, and this particular person was not aware of that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighFives Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 nah dudes its nice being able to have more info on a topic so readily available in threads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hodie Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 These kind of posts can be really helpful if they're delivered in a way that doesn't make the original poster feel stupid. If it was something that's been discussed to death recently, the new poster might not know why people aren't dying to talk about it. And in a case like this one, when pretty great covers and b-sides compilations have already been put together, it seems silly not to mention it. The ideal is to not deliver them in a smug manner, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 These kind of posts can be really helpful if they're delivered in a way that doesn't make the original poster feel stupid. If it was something that's been discussed to death recently, the new poster might not know why people aren't dying to talk about it. And in a case like this one, when pretty great covers and b-sides compilations have already been put together, it seems silly not to mention it. The ideal is to not deliver them in a smug manner, though.Agreed. And this kind of post is probably going to get misconstrued by a newcomer who is unfamiliar with the way things work around here: Yeah f**k off you unoriginal idea mp3 a**h*le!That might be OK among the regulars, but I wouldn't be too surprised if this poor guy never came back after such a response. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I am very sick of opening a topic and seeing a certain poster coming up with multiple links of similar topics. I think Analogman needs to find his Analogwoman. I don't think I was rude on this one - again, it's a standard deal on the message boards I have seen to point out when threads have already been posted on something. Granted, if it is from a few months ago, it is pushing it. It is really bad form to do this sort of thing in Mp3 - again standard practice. What one does for themselves is their business - but, when you spread around a lossy version of something - it does more harm than good in the long run. I really wish the people who run this place would ban posting of more than a single Mp3 track. Also - I am going to give a break on the second comment - as I am trying to be nicer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yermom Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I really wish the people who run this place would ban posting of more than a single Mp3 track.This would bum me out a great deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 This would bum me out a great deal.Same. mp3s are fine with probably 87% or more of the people so a rule like that would be ridiculous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Again, this is pretty standard out there. And - it is not hard to convert WAV or FLAC to Mp3. All it takes is effort and practice. I say these things after some talks with tapers - who do this work and ask that whole collections of their work not be posted around in a Mp3 format. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wendy Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Truth be told, lots of the time he's providing a very useful service.I agree completely. Thank you A-man for pointing people in the direction of the answers to their questions. VC is a big place. It is an excellent resource for Wilco/Tweedy fans, and many people don't know where to find things. Especially think of the quantity of new fans that are going to be finding VC once Sky Blue Sky is released in 2 weeks. Do you think they want to re-invent the wheel on some of these questions? I thought sharing information was what made for a great community. Plus, when A-man (or anyone else) drops a link to help point the original poster to past information -- that does not imply that the thread must end. If you want to discuss the topic further, then keep posting. As for the MP3 thing, that conflict will probably never go away for the reason that Explodo states. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 As I have said before, I was taught these things by some folks on this board. And I am always willing to teach what I know about this stuff. Let's look at another way - would you want, say a Led Zeppelin show (or some other old band) via a reel to reel--> cassette--->DAT--->WAV--->Flac--->Mp3 OR the show via reel to reel--->Wav--->FLAC? which one do you think is going to sound better when you get it and then do what you will - Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Again, this is pretty standard out there. And - it is not hard to convert WAV or FLAC to Mp3. All it takes is effort and practice. Doesn't even take much effort, really. I admit I convert most to mp3, but I see where Aman is coming from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 It's the spreading it around that is the problem. What ones does with their files, by themselves in the dead of night, is their business. When you spread Mp3's for trade purposes, sharing on message boards, (attempted) torrent purposes, selling on Ebay (bad all the away around - but I have seen people trying to sell Mp3 cdrs on there), etc. - then that is where the problems begin. This stuff is suppose to be passed around by means of certain standards and protocols - this insures that the dude who gets the Wilco show from 2003 in 2008 will still have a good sounding show - just like the one you originally got. When someone gets a Mp3'ed Wilco show from 2003 in 2008, after it has been iTuned, and further degraded, they are not going to be to happy. It could be that the whole idea of sound has been lost on the current generation - you know, people really liked The Stuff, but it turned out to not be such a good ider at the end of the day. I just feel that if one is going to be involved in live show/rare tracks/B-side trading - one ought to follow the rules set forth as the means to properly do this. And yes, I have shared Mp3 rips on here - but as I said the last time we had this discussion - no more. I really wish something would be said or done about this - but, if there comes a day when tapers stop refusing to tape Wilco shows, then you'll have an answer. There also seems to be a I got mine, fuck you trip. Which is one of the reasons the world is screwed. You have to think - were all these protocols and ways of sharing shows just made up for no reason? No. here is another thread where I wasted more time trying to talk about what the deal is Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I will forever find it funny that Analogman has gone digital. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Well, there you go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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