random "either way" appreciation

[You Can Be The Stone]

so yeah, i was playing the chords for "either way" on the piano, and i'll have to say, i'm loving the bridge (either way, i'm gonna stay, right, for you.) It sounds so deceptively simple, and it's hard to notice it at all, because it kind of gets drowned out with the string section and all that, but hearing those chords on their own, on just the piano... they are so gorgeous. It so seamlessly jumps from the A scale to the C scale for the bridge, something so hard to do. And when it does hit the C scale, it should sound so different and contrasting, since C scale has no flats, while A has 3. But in fact, the chords seem to sound even more pure than the verses, as if it was meant to go there. And last but not least, it seamlessly outros back to the A scale, into a wonderful Nels solo! yeah, "weather channel on the 8's" indeed, pitchfork.

[Atticus]

I love playing this tune on the acoustic, capod 5th. Wonderful chord progressions...

[Kalle]

The song is in D major and an A major scale has three sharps not flats. What they do with the Eb walk down to the A minor chord and then the almost chromatic walk down from the Dm to the Bb is genius. The transition from F major back to the D major in the bridge with the IV to V to I in the F major and then making the III a major (A major) using the C# note as the leading note back into the D and Em progression which carries the solo.

 

I agree that the song is beautiful and the arrangement of the song is pure genius but your theory is completely messed up.

[Scott Gyrrr]

The song is in D major and an A major scale has three sharps not flats. What they do with the Eb walk down to the A minor chord and then the almost chromatic walk down from the Dm to the Bb is genius. The transition from F major back to the D major in the bridge with the IV to V to I in the F major and then making the III a major (A major) using the C# note as the leading note back into the D and Em progression which carries the solo.

 

I agree that the song is beautiful and the arrangement of the song is pure genius but your theory is completely messed up.

 

 

Doesn't;

C# = Db, F# = Gb and G# = Ab ?

 

Although it is more normal to describe them as sharp. Either way nice song. Groan.

[froggie]

the sharps/flats are correct above

[myboyblue]

I think it's one of Jeff's finest vocal performances as well. Great stuff.

[Kalle]

Doesn't;

C# = Db, F# = Gb and G# = Ab ?

 

Although it is more normal to describe them as sharp. Either way nice song. Groan.

 

Well yes that may be true with those notes' names being interchangable. But if you do it your way your A major scale will look like this: Bbb, Cb, Db, Ebb, Fb, Gb, Ab, Bbb. Now besides that looking ridiculous you will never ever see that in music so it's not more "normal" to call the sharps it's right and only way. But the song has nothing to do with A major so why are we even talking about it.

[You Can Be The Stone]

Yeah, it is actually in D Major. The tabs section has it in the A scale, so I was just being lazy; still, it's relatively the same, pretty much.

[SarahC]

The song is in D major and an A major scale has three sharps not flats.

I was just about to say that.

The most important thing to know in theory is key signatues!

[lost highway]

So wait....it starts in D major but what's the other key that it switches to?

[So Long]

The song's in D. There's no key changes, the bridge (solo section) just focuses on a different section of the song, but the progressions have already been used. Similar to Impossible Germany's solo section which focuses on the G-Em-Am progression.

[Kalle]

Yeah, it is actually in D Major. The tabs section has it in the A scale, so I was just being lazy; still, it's relatively the same, pretty much.

 

They may be "relatively the same" by your standards but you can't really go and make a thread about you explaining the theory behind the chords they used in the song and have it be wrong.

 

The song's in D. There's no key changes, the bridge (solo section) just focuses on a different section of the song, but the progressions have already been used. Similar to Impossible Germany's solo section which focuses on the G-Em-Am progression.

 

By this you're saying that during the chorus section where they use a D# with a walk down to Am and then Dm with a walk down to Bb are within the confines of D major? Not really. And even in the bridge (Either way, I'm gonna stay right for you) they stay on that Bb Then move to C to F and then to A. Now that looks like a key change to me. What they're doing is using changing the key to D majors minor third which is F major. This is actually quite common seeing as F majors relative minor, D minor, in the harmonic form sharpens the 7th (making a C into a C# in this case). By sharpening these notes you can play the D major chord and an A major chord without going out of any "boundries". The A major chord proves to be the link between F major and D major and does just that while moving into the solo section.

 

The solo section has nothing new it's the same progression as the verses previous to it so I don't know how it "focuses on a different section of the song". Even when coming out of the solo into the last verse where they use a G chord instead of the Em, that's nothing new they're just relative minors and can be almost intercahngable. And as for Impossible Germany the whole entire song is in E minor (or G major) and the band never "strays from the confines". G-Em-Am being a very typical progression in that key.

[MattZ]

Either way, I love this song.

[wagx3]

i love music theory!