Sir Stewart Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 And I think it's worthy of discussion, no matter what a mod thinks (I realize the other thread went off the rails). It's interesting, if nothing else, that the one ad from this "gets into you" campaign that features black actors is also the only one that does not feature Wilco music.I think it's kind of fucked up.What do YOU think? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Alan Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 And I think it's worthy of discussion, no matter what a mod thinks (I realize the other thread went off the rails). It's interesting, if nothing else, that the one ad from this "gets into you" campaign that features black actors is also the only one that does not feature Wilco music.I think it's kind of fucked up.What do YOU think?I think you're looking a little too much into it. it's not interesting or thread-worthy. Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyjimmy Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Not terribly surprised or shocked by this. If they (VW) are aiming this particular commercial at the Black/ African American demographic in an effort to sell cars Wilco would probably not be the best fit for it's soundtrack. BTW, out of curiosity, do you know who's music is featured, if any? Link to post Share on other sites
Magus673 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 are you people serious? Link to post Share on other sites
WilcoFan Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 I think you're looking a little too much into it. it's not interesting or thread-worthy. Marketing and advertising is very interesting. Did the other thread get deleted all together? Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted July 12, 2007 Author Share Posted July 12, 2007 I think you're looking a little too much into it. it's not interesting or thread-worthy.What, in your mind, is thread-worthy then?I was sitting at home, watching a baseball game, and a VW ad with Wilco music comes on. An hour later, a similar VW ad comes on, the big differences being it features black actors and no Wilco music. We all know that SBS is the official album of this new VW campaign. I found this interesting and yes, thread-worthy, to talk about. I'm not implying Wilco is racist. I'm not implying anything, I'm noting something about race/popular culture that has to do with Wilco. How the flying fffff is that not thread-worthy, you twat?BTW, out of curiosity, do you know who's music is featured, if any?It wasn't recognizable to me. It was mainstream poppy, like not-quite-dance music, Mix radio type stuff, if I recall right. Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied lightning Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 How the flying fffff is that not thread-worthy, you twat? Link to post Share on other sites
oceanman Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Master Card has a comercial with someone covering M Wards,I go home. Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Master Card has a comercial with someone covering M Wards Daniel Johnston's ,I go home. fixed it for you Link to post Share on other sites
EL the Famous Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 It wasn't recognizable to me. It was mainstream poppy, like not-quite-dance music, Mix radio type stuff, if I recall right. If they indeed did two seperate ads and one of them was to target an african-american demographic...I see nothing strange or even racist about not using wilco music. They have more data out there than one would even imagine on what genre of music/musical artists different demographics based on everything from age to color to sex to sexual preference to regionality will identify with. You could call it stereotyping or you could call it trying to advertise to the greatest % of your target demographic. it's just sound business...hardly w/ any racism involved. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted July 12, 2007 Author Share Posted July 12, 2007 Yeah, I never thought of it as racist. The fact that SBS is the official album of this ad campaign though. I mean. It's weird. Christ, I'm starting to feel like jnickerson. Link to post Share on other sites
Wendy Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Marketing and advertising is very interesting. Did the other thread get deleted all together?The thread was NOT deleted. It was moved to TTL section and I did not leave a fowarding "arrow" to it because that function has been problematic here at the forum lately (just FYI) and I don't trust it right now, so I didn't want to risk actually deleting it by accident due to that weirdness. Sir Stewart: That thread was completely off course and the title had been changed. Why do you do that, just to be funny? Yes. But now you want to be serious again? Okay. If you want to have an honest and serious discourse on how Wilco is involved in this far-stretching controversy, go for it. But this is racism we're talking about and it's not funny to me, and I'm sure I'm not alone. Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Christ, I'm starting to feel like jnickerson.Who....? Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 My vote:Yes, threadworthy, but not all that surprising. Certainly not racist. As El *(&%^& said. It's also why they advertise for Viagra and Metamucil on The McLaughlin Group. They know their audience. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Alan Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 i'm doing a horrible job of making friends online eh? god, i must be such a loser, not being able to make friends over the internet. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted July 12, 2007 Author Share Posted July 12, 2007 But now you want to be serious again? Okay. If you want to have an honest and serious discourse on how Wilco is involved in this far-stretching controversy, go for it. But this is racism we're talking about and it's not funny to me, and I'm sure I'm not alone.It's not controversy, it's a thread on a Wilco message board that remarks upon...all the stuff I've said above. I'm not talking about racism. The original title of the thread was "irreverent", yes. But the point of the thread was serious. It's interesting to me enough to start a thread.What's becoming more interesting is the number of people leaping into the fray to deny that Wilco is racist. Jesus.i'm doing a horrible job of making friends online eh? god, i must be such a loser, not being able to make friends over the internet.Your crying lemon is not avatar-worthy. Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 i'm doing a horrible job of making friends online eh? god, i must be such a loser, not being able to make friends over the internet.Sounds about right, yeah. Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 I think I don't give a shit, one way or the other. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Alan Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Sounds about right, yeah.well you keep making friends on the internet. and i'll use real life. not saying either is better than the other. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted July 12, 2007 Author Share Posted July 12, 2007 Forget it. Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 It's not controversy, it's a thread on a Wilco message board that remarks upon...all the stuff I've said above. I'm not talking about racism. The original title of the thread was "irreverent", yes. But the point of the thread was serious. It's interesting to me enough to start a thread.What's becoming more interesting is the number of people leaping into the fray to deny that Wilco is racist.I'm with you. The whole thing. Link to post Share on other sites
Wendy Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Well, the forum seems to have eaten Sir Stewart's thread (originally titled "why does wilco hate black people") that I moved to TTL. So that entire function is f'd up. Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 I think he might have deleted it. Link to post Share on other sites
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