Doug C Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I wanted to reply to cryptique but I didn't want to threadjack. "As for banning people who criticize the band, that has never happened here. Everyone is free to express their opinions. It's only when those expressions become abusive or otherwise drag down the level of discourse to an unacceptable level that those members run afoul of the moderators. I love that this board has moderators who are actually present and engaged in the discussions. They help to keep things from spiraling out of control. I've been on other boards that are barely moderated (or unmoderated), and most of them are utterly intolerable. This place remains surprisingly civil, and I credit that largely to our group of moderators." I don't fully understand the first paragraph. I have learned that there is an ignore feature here. Also, if you ignore them, they will stop. Not responding to people deemed as discourse-level-dragdowners is the simplest and most effective way to deal with them. The musician's board that I waste crazy time posting on has no moderator and the discussion that get wild work themselves out. It is very tolerable. It just seems as though some people can't avoid responding to people that bother them. Self-monitoring works very well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I hate to be the one to tell you*, but this doesn't belong in Just A Fan. * - No I don't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
watch me fall Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I hate to be the one to tell you*, but this doesn't belong in Just A Fan. * - No I don't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 ellsworth, if you don't like the fact that this board is moderated, then why do you hang around? it isn't going to change because you don't like it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 You know what? I tried to follow board protocol, be a decent guy, unlike some of you high post count folks, and not threadjack. After I hit submit it hit me that it wasn't the right place for it and knew that one of you nice, kind folks would point it out. Gee, thanks. The other board I mentioned also doesn't have different areas. there is only 1. I apologize. I am sincerely trying to follow the rules. Some of you all seem to need PMs from a moderator. I did not say that I didn't like moderators. I obviously can deal with it as evidenced by my actions. I am truly interested in it and am sharing different viewpoints in an INTERNET FORUM. I have never used profanities/obscenities or called anyone a truly derogatory name as many of you regulars have done and do. The only reason that you are giving me grief is because I stated an opinion on Wilco that you didn't agree with. Yes, I stated it several times for 2 resons: 1) because people kept responding and 2) because I was truly dumbfounded. I came here when the cancellation was announced because I assummed that the place would be full of dumbfounded fans just as surprised by Wilco as I was. I admit that I kept refining my logic on the foolish notion that someone would say, "Dude, that makes sense". That is messed up. If anyone here needs monitoring, it isn't me. It is the smarmy, elitist jerks many of you appear to be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 If anyone here needs monitoring, it isn't me. It is the smarmy, elitist jerks many of you appear to be.If so much of the rest of the world seems to be against you, it's time to ask yourself if maybe it really is you after all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
myboyblue Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 This other board that you visit sounds magical! Can you post a link??! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 This other board that you visit sounds magical! Can you post a link??!"You wouldn't know her. She lives in Canada." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 If anyone here needs monitoring, it isn't me. It is the smarmy, elitist jerks many of you appear to be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wendy Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 JayFarrar.net Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the board you are referring to? I'm just asking because I post there on occasion, too, because I am a fan of Jay Farrar and Son Volt. They have no moderation. They have only 1 forum. They have quite a few Wilco fans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 Thanks again for proving me right. I responded with a sincere, well thought out post and look at the replies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 JayFarrar.net Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the board you are referring to? I'm just asking because I post there on occasion, too, because I am a fan of Jay Farrar and Son Volt. They have no moderation. They have only 1 forum. They have quite a few Wilco fans.Yes. I am the only one there preferring Wilco/Tweedy to Son Volt/Farrar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Thanks again for proving me right. I responded with a sincere, well thought out post and look at the replies.I assume you're referring to this post? If anyone here needs monitoring, it isn't me. It is the smarmy, elitist jerks many of you appear to be.I guess I'll give you "sincere." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Yes. I am the only one there preferring Wilco/Tweedy to Son Volt/Farrar. Does this mean you really just prefer the role of antagonist? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Wait, there are other boards? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kimcatch22 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Yes. I am the only one there preferring Wilco/Tweedy to Son Volt/Farrar.One of the first things I learned about argument in, oh, about 7th grade, was to avoid using absolutes because it only takes one other example of what you're claiming as the sole thing to prove you wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 Does this mean you really just prefer the role of antagonist?Not at all. I am a huge Jay fan. I have never said B.S. about him. I went there in August '04 after a Jay and Mark Spencer gig. I encountered some nice folks andd made some friends, voila, I am trapped!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
groovingdan Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 . I came here when the cancellation was announced because I assummed that the place would be full of dumbfounded fans just as surprised by Wilco as I was. I admit that I kept refining my logic on the foolish notion that someone would say, "Dude, that makes sense". That is messed up. I think many people have agreed that it is very disappointing to have the show canceled. That's very reasonable to be upset about (Dude that makes sense). I think it's just been the fact that you've been responding over and over that has annoyed people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 One of the first things I learned about argument in, oh, about 7th grade, was to avoid using absolutes because it only takes one other example of what you're claiming as the sole thing to prove you wrong. True. Correction: I am the only one there (that i know of) that has stated a Wilco preference. Thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the board you are referring to? I'm just asking because I post there on occasion, too, because I am a fan of Jay Farrar and Son Volt. Yes. I am the only one there preferring Wilco/Tweedy to Son Volt/Farrar.Say it ain't so, Wendy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
groovingdan Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Say it ain't so, Wendy! lol, has Wendy gone to the dark side?!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 I think many people have agreed that it is very disappointing to have the show canceled. That's very reasonable to be upset about (Dude that makes sense). I think it's just been the fact that you've been responding over and over that has annoyed people.That isn't what i meant. I meant someone saying "dude, that makes sense" about the cancellation being a bad decision. So much for discussing moderators and admins! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kimcatch22 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Say it ain't so, Wendy!I knew the lawyer would be on this fallacy of logic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I think many people have agreed that it is very disappointing to have the show canceled. That's very reasonable to be upset about (Dude that makes sense). I think it's just been the fact that you've been responding over and over that has annoyed people. That applies double for the folks who voice a distaste for ellsworth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ction Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Favorite Jam songs: 1. "Going Underground"2. "In the City"3. "A Town Called Malice"4. "Strange Town"5. "Start!" Semi-obscure honorable mention - "I Got By In Time", from the first LP. Great punk/soul tune. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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