LouieB Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Hey no problem...if there is still someone on the planet who cares about the Doors it is okay with me.... Actually I have ended up supporting them in the past, but frankly they don't do much for me anymore...however I never tire of the Byrds, particularly the pre-flyte sessions. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delmarkurt Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Sweetheart of the Rodeo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
m_thomp Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 It has to be Notorious Byrd Brothers. It set the precedent for alll that is adventuroud and good in 60s pop music. Anything else considered above this in Byrds folklore is both heresey and wrong. Seriously, think about it, Draft Morning, Change is Now, Draft Morning. Old John Robertson....thats four songs that are stone-wall classics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Littlebear Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Seriously, think about it, Draft Morning, Change is Now, Draft Morning. Old John Robertson....thats four songs that are stone-wall classics. And also Draft Morning... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 It has to be Notorious Byrd Brothers. It set the precedent for alll that is adventuroud and good in 60s pop music. Anything else considered above this in Byrds folklore is both heresey and wrong. Seriously, think about it, Draft Morning, Change is Now, Draft Morning. Old John Robertson....thats four songs that are stone-wall classics.Notorious Byrd Brothers is sort of a transitional album acually. David Crosby was about done. Strangely no mention of two Goffin/King tunes Goin' Back and Wasn't Born to Follow (later featured in Easy Rider) and the also quite good Get to You. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
m_thomp Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 And also Draft Morning... The Alternate End version, of course Notorious Byrd Brothers is sort of a transitional album acually. David Crosby was about done. Yes, hence the horse head on the cover replacing him. Although he was pretty much out of the way, his ode to the three-way, Triad, which you can find in the bonus tracks, is one of his finest Byrd moments. Strangely no mention of two Goffin/King tunes Goin' Back and Wasn't Born to Follow (later featured in Easy Rider) and the also quite good Get to You. LouieB No mention because I was working from memory, but those two are fantastic also. For me, this was Byrds' breakthrough album, with all emphasis placed on 'album'. The preceding albums, whilst good and sporadically amazing, always seemed to me more like collections of potential singles' fodder, whereas this had a more consistent and cohesive feel. Younger Than Yesterday did also to some degree, but the NBB songs were far more adventurous, bridging the gaps between pop, psychedelia and country. So, yes, Louie, a transitional album in personnel and sound, but an exceptional one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 And also Draft Morning... What a wonderful song. My favorite tune of theirs is either Draft Morning or My Back Pages. --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Three Crosby songs I rather like: Lady Friend, What's Happening?, and Stranger In A Strange Land. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 . The preceding albums, whilst good and sporadically amazing, always seemed to me more like collections of potential singles' fodder, whereas this had a more consistent and cohesive feel.This is quite true, but most groups up until the mid-60s were putting out albums with singles fodder..that's where the money was. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 i wouldn't have said there was anything transitional about notorious at all, it's more like the culmination of what they were doing in various songs on various albums up until that point, put together without any filler. i think they'd been working up to it for some time. the only thing that slightly iggles me at times is the over use of phasing - it doesn't ruin the songs it's used on, but it kind of dates them a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
m_thomp Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 I disagree. It hints at the the country sound that was to follow, albeit in a subtle and occasional way. Old John Robertson, which was left off Younger Than Yesterday, is as surer sign as any. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 they had that country sound already on a lot of their songs. i just see the albums before as a build up to that one, and then after that, with sweethearts, they just kind of became another band enitrely. but notorious is the peak of what they were doing in the early days (not really in terms of the singles, but the other album tracks when they were experimenting with their style a bit more). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 The Byrds - Live at Royal Albert Hall 1971 From their earliest days as 12-string-wielding folk-rockers, to the thrilling psychedelic excursions of their raga-rock period to their 1968 birthing of country-rock, the Byrds were always accorded a hero Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Release date: May 27, 2008Label: SundazedOkay gang...you want tofreak out...??? ??? I was at that show. No bullshit. When I have talked in the past about seeing this show it was no biggie, just another gig for a late version of the Byrds, now it is an album. Go figure. Very very cool. I will certainly get this immediately. (Of course I bought a ticket late and I was like in the last row of the balcony, but I was in the house....) LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I wonder how many live albums you are on - so to speak. Kicking Television and now this one - that is two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Okay gang...you want tofreak out...??? ??? I was at that show. No bullshit. When I have talked in the past about seeing this show it was no biggie, just another gig for a late version of the Byrds, now it is an album. Go figure. Very very cool. I will certainly get this immediately. (Of course I bought a ticket late and I was like in the last row of the balcony, but I was in the house....) LouieBLou, I love to freak out. I guess I'll be grabbing this one as well. Very cool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I wonder how many live albums you are on - so to speak. Kicking Television and now this one - that is two.Well Neko Case's Tigers album also. Sadly I missed the taping of the Waco Brothers recent release a couple years ago. This one is purely a fluke since it was never intended as an album. Lou, I love to freak out. I guess I'll be grabbing this one as well. Very cool.I think I will order it in both CD and LP.....even I am still freaked out..... LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Well Neko Case's Tigers album also. Sadly I missed the taping of the Waco Brothers recent release a couple years ago. This one is purely a fluke since it was never intended as an album. I think I will order it in both CD and LP.....even I am still freaked out..... LouieB I forgot about that one - as it does not really sound like a live album as I recall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I forgot about that one - as it does not really sound like a live album as I recall.It sounds moderately live. The crowd at the show I as at was lively. Actually the comment at the end is from the show Rosie and I were at. Other than that I have no idea if we are on any of the actual cuts. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Oh - that weird shit about feeding children to tigers or whatever it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Oh - that weird shit about feeding children to tigers or whatever it is.Yup... LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Littlebear Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I've just listened to the first six albums in a row, and my favourites go like this: 1. Younger than Yesterday (though I dislike the opener) - the most interesting as a whole album2. Mr Tambourine Man - the most harmonious of the early phase3. Sweet heart of the Rodeo - it's like another band - a good country album4. Fifth Dimension (don't like the opner either) - uneven, but the high sides are the most adventurous of their whole body of work5. Turn Turn Turn - interesting formula: put traditional stuff in electric fashion6. The Notorious Byrd Brothers - really weird stuff, hard to connect to - but some nice moments general observation: I'm not a fan of the Byrds and prefer the Doors by a wide marge As of today, I definitely disagree with me here. My lastest row of listens put Sweetheart of the Rodeo far ahead. I think it's definitive. It's not a matter of preferring country music to folk-rock or jangle pop, it's just that the Byrds songs have more power in this country setting. All the previous albums sound too formulaic and artificial in comparison. Their folk-rock formula was nice, but that's it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gobias Industries Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Sweetheart of the Rodeo, there's no contest at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I am playing all the Byrds cds today - still some of the best re-master/re-issue cds I have ever bought: Mr. Tambourine ManTurn! Turn! Turn!Fifth DimensionYounger than YesterdayNotorious Byrd BrothersSweetheart of the RodeoDr. Byrds & Mr. HydeBallad of Easy Rider(Untitled)ByrdmaniaxFarther AlongByrds also - Live at the Fillmore - February 1969The Preflyte Sessions Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Nothing like a day with the Byrds... LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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