dondoboy Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 ... so my hatred for her was renewed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. (hristine Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Because her own self loathing is not quite enough? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 she makes me feel sad in my private place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 The best thing Love ever did was to be in the photo on the back cover of the Dead's "Aoxomoxoa" LP. Mr. Phillip Lesh is also her godfather evidently. Crazy, huh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Now that all the unreleased Nirvana is out, I don't really hate her anymore. That was my prime point of contention with her; now I'm just apathetic to her. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 "Courtney needs love... and so do I." --E Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I liked her in The People vs. Larry Flynt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I liked her in The People vs. Larry Flynt. I did too. and I like Miss World and Celebrity Skin. but she's a train wreck and I feel bad for her. in a way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yermom Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I third the liking her in Larry Flynt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I third the liking her in Larry Flynt.Yeah. Not really a stretch for her, but she did good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Edie Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 And I like the song Malibu. It's pretty good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I did too. and I like Miss World and Celebrity Skin.Both very good albums, particularly Celebrity Skin. I don't care if Billy Corgan or whomever helped write it/whatever- it's an enjoyably good album. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Both very good albums, particularly Celebrity Skin. I don't care if Billy Corgan or whomever helped write it/whatever- it's an enjoyable good album. All of Hole's albums have their merits due to her getting writing help from some of the better songwriters of the early 90s hard rock scene. Cobain is confirmed to have written songs on Live Through This, Billy on Celebrity Skin, and Kim Gordon is rumored to have written songs on her first album, which I'm blanking on the title of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 basically all of her albums were written by someone else. We actually have a degree of proof that Courtney stole some of Kurt's songs. He wrote "Heart-Shaped Box" in a walk in closet so she wouldn't steal it.And...? Rock & Roll revolves around theft. Still a good album. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 And...? Rock & Roll revolves around theft. Still a good album. Oh, I agree. I mean, there are tons of classic albums where the primary artist didn't even write most of the material; I think it just peeves people that she took sole credit. From what I can tell based on the one Nirvana song she stole that we actually have the Nirvana version for, she writes all of her lyrics, which is something, I guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Which Nirvana tune did she swipe? I'm not a big Courtney Love fan as she annoys the ever-loving shit out of me as much as the next guy, but she can belt a tune. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Which Nirvana tune did she swipe? I'm not a big Courtney Love fan as she annoys the ever-loving shit out of me as much as the next guy, but she can belt a tune. The only one we have uncontrovertable proof of is a b-side called Old Age, which was a Cobain song recorded in rough form (scratch vocal) at the Nevermind sessions. She's admitted taking songs from him, and also admitted she tried to beg Kurt to give her Heart-Shaped Box for Live Through This. It's worth noting that Cobain, who wrote on average 20 songs a year, only wrote half a dozen new Nirvana songs in the year leading upto Live Through This; In Utero was 50/50 comprised of New songs and songs written between 1990-1991 (All Apologies actually predates Half of Nevermind). Now part of that could be from him being a depressed, unmotivated heroin addict, but many speculate that Cobain was writing for Courtney during that time period. And it didn't seem he minded. Live Through This was in the can 6 months before Cobain died, so I don't think you could say Kurt objected. Despite all of that, I still like Live Through This. It's a good record. Many great records have been made where the feature performer isn't the songwriter, or had tons of help in the songwriting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lamradio Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Every time I see or hear about Courtney, I just think of when she was on the Pam Anderson Roast. When Jeff Ross said "How is it possible that Courney Love looks worse than Kurt Cobain?" That gave "below the belt" a whole new meaning.. I couldn't help but laugh, but I was sick to my stomach at the same time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
watch me fall Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I really have no feelings about her at all. I do, however, enjoy singing Celebrity Skin on Rock Band. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quarter23cd Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 The best thing Love ever did was to be in the photo on the back cover of the Dead's "Aoxomoxoa" LP.Mr. Phillip Lesh is also her godfather evidently. Crazy, huh?Wow, I did not know this. So does this mean we can blame her for Jerry, too? Perhaps she met Janis and Jimi as a toddler? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Her dad was a peripheral friend of the band back then and put out a shitty book a bunch of years ago. From what I've gathered he wasn't very well received in the family/circle after too long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Hank Harrison. A good college chum of Phil. First manager of the band (when they were the Warlocks). Founder of LSD Rescue - first drug crisis intervention center in the U.S. If I recall correctly, there was some beef about him selling some SBDs of the band (St. Louis '77?). Anyway, I kinda enjoyed his 2 books on the Dead. The style of writing was very much in the vein of the Beats - although not as good (of course!). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wilco's new album Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 The best thing Love ever did was to be in the photo on the back cover of the Dead's "Aoxomoxoa" LP. is that when she first dropped acid? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Wow, I did not know this. So does this mean we can blame her for Jerry, too? Perhaps she met Janis and Jimi as a toddler? Courtney was 7 when Hendrix died, which means she'd probably already done blow, been arrested twice , and killed a puppy. Random thought; Courtney is apparently also Marlon Brando's illegitimate Grand Daughter, her mother being Brando's illegit child. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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