Atticus Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 and in my opinion should be suspended, not fined, for the comment to the line judge Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Maybe, but there weren't no foot fault. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted September 13, 2009 Author Share Posted September 13, 2009 Maybe, but there weren't no foot fault. have you read any editorials reviewing the call or know the history of the tennis? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 have you read any editorials reviewing the call or know the history of the tennis? Quite a loaded (double-barrel too!) question and so I think my proper reply would be to ask you what you are trying to say.All I know is I watched it live, and replay after replay the commentators were unanimous in their judgment of the call.I apologize in advance for not knowing the history of tennis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted September 13, 2009 Author Share Posted September 13, 2009 Quite a loaded (double-barrel too!) question and so I think my proper reply would be to ask you what you are trying to say.All I know is I watched it live, and replay after replay the commentators were unanimous in their judgment of the call.I apologize in advance for not knowing the history of tennis. mono pointless? *shocked*j have you read any editorials reviewing the sets or know the history of the recordings? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Oh, man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
So Long Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 I thought the whole situation was great for the sport. Tennis has been building some steam in the mainstream the last couple of years, and with interesting storylines like this...why no? Personally, I thought she acted like an athlete who A) isn't used to losing, hated the call, C) doesn't care about public opinion. I support it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 I'm always a little embarrassed by/for people who think it's okay to have temper tantrums at work, whether they are my colleagues, people I interact with, or public figures. Just plain crass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 True, but I continue to be in awe of both her and her sister's anatomy below the waist. What thighs! Damn! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
isadorah Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 i think it is funny to see name calling in response to bad mouthing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I assume you also really dislike John McEnroe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I assume you also really dislike John McEnroe. Tennis players' behavior is a constant source of amusement. Of course, the call was insane. Calling a foot fault at that point after she had been doing it the entire match? And is it even really a foot fault? Tennis will soon become professional wrestling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Tennis will soon become professional wrestling. This doesn't mean anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 This doesn't mean anything. Oh really. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 What does it mean? John McEnroe used to yell at the head judges and curse them out. Were you saying "Tennis will soon become professional wrestling" 20 years ago? Of course not. She got upset, and rightfully so. Should she have handled it better? Sure. Should she have told the line judge she was going to throw the ball down his throat? Probably not. But what you said literally doesn't mean anything. Doubly so if you don't say anything after that to explain it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
isadorah Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 What does it mean? John McEnroe used to yell at the head judges and curse them out. Were you saying "Tennis will soon become professional wrestling" 20 years ago? Of course not. She got upset, and rightfully so. Should she have handled it better? Sure. Should she have told the line judge she was going to throw the ball down his throat? Probably not. But what you said literally doesn't mean anything. Doubly so if you don't say anything after that to explain it. agreed. during the rain delay they showed a Jimmy Connors match where he went off on the head judge calling him a bum and spending several minutes belittling him for calling a ball out. Pardon my ignorance on this next part, but I think they can challenge calls now, couldn't she have just challenged it or better yet, couldn't the person in the chair overruled the line judge? i didn't see it actually, so not sure why i am throwing my 2cents in. serena has become a lot more feisty lately. she is also massive compared to her sister who is just tall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Watching the whole match live, it seemed to me that Serena was approaching collapse as it progressed. She was double-faulting left and right. Seemed worn out. Outplayed, for sure. My immediate reaction to the ending was that her outburst was spurred in part by a desire to be thrown out of the match so as not to lose fairly. Not saying that now, but it was my first reaction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Well, she did manage to make it all about her and not Clijsters, so you may have a point. Perhaps she views $10,000 as a small price to pay for keeping the spotlight on her a bit longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moxiebean Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Any time a tennis player goes a little nuts on the court I think back to Ilie Nastase: "As long as I can get angry, then I play well. If I play well, I can beat anybody. I am happy because I am getting angry." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 She also destroyed a racquet earlier in the match. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I think the more important, overlooked point here, is that professional wrestling should never find itself becoming more like tennis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oil Can Boyd Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I used to watch a lot of tennis and saw a lot of McEnroe and Connors tantrums but I never saw them say anything like "I would like to take this fu**ing tennis ball and shove it down your fu**ing throat ..." while pointing at a line judge with a racquet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I would have actually shoved the ball down her throat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I would have actually shoved the ball down her throat. I know. Athletes are all talk these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 i think it is funny to see name calling in response to bad mouthing. I tend to think of name-calling as using a word or phrase with the primary intent of being hurtful or insulting. I used "immature" and "brat" precisely because of what they both describe. If, for example, I had simply called serena williams a bitch, I would have been doing so mainly to insult her, not to describe her as a female dog. she was losing. she was down 15-30 in a game in a set in which she was down 5-6. she received a judgment she didn't like. a champion worthy of praise would funnel that anger or frustration or whatever into handing over some great serves, coming back in the game and winning the set and then the match. she chose to turn her anger and frustration onto another person, employing threatening body language and actual language. while I have seen and in a silly way enjoyed macenroe's temper tantrums in the past, I never personally witnessed him resort to the kind of behavior that serena did. If I had, I would feel the same way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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