Deeper Down

[Guest Speed Racer]

Helping craft an entire album is the same to you as showing up one day and singing a co-vocal on one short song?

 

We don't know that he "crafted an entire album" - he solo'd on some songs. Who guided him to play what? I mean, we could go over to the Jay F boards and he'd reply within minutes, so if you're curious, go ask.

 

Or to state it another way, Bill Murry made a cameo in Zombie Town. If he had been in the whole movie it would not have been a cameo appearance.

 

Films aren't albums, fyi.

[jff]

 

 

Films aren't albums, fyi.

 

You're too smart to play that game. You know exactly what the point was.

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cameo

 

Main Entry: cam·eo

Pronunciation: \ˈka-mē-ˌō\

Function: noun

Inflected Form(s): plural cam·eos

Etymology: Middle English camew, from Middle French camau, kamaheu

Date: 15th century

1 a : a gem carved in relief; especially : a small piece of sculpture on a stone or shell cut in relief in one layer with another contrasting layer serving as background b : a small medallion with a profiled head in relief

2 : a carving or sculpture made in the manner of a cameo

3 : a usually brief literary or filmic piece that brings into delicate or sharp relief the character of a person, place, or event

4 : a small theatrical role usually performed by a well-known actor and often limited to a single scene; broadly : a brief appearance or role

[Guest Speed Racer]

You're too smart to play that game. You know exactly what the point was.

 

I do, but I disagree that you can compare them. Because films aren't albums.

 

In my opinion, Brian Hennemen's appearance on A.M. was a guest appearance - one of a musician well known to their audience at the time. His performance boosted the album quality, but did not define its sound. Feist's appearance was a guest appearance - one of a musician well known to Wilco's audience at the time. Her performance improved a song, but did not define its sound.

[jff]

I do, but I disagree that you can compare them. Because films aren't albums.

 

 

 

Of course you can compare them. You can compare any two things.

 

Films and albums have a great deal in common.

[Guest Speed Racer]

Films and albums have a great deal in common.

 

You can compare apples and oranges, and yet there's that phrase...

[jff]

You can compare apples and oranges, and yet there's that phrase...

 

 

I can see this is going nowhere. I can't take it anymore. UNCLE! I GIVE!

[Guest Speed Racer]

Oh, I never asked: would you have prefered that Wilco use a vocalist other than Feist, use no female on the song, or omit the song from the album entirely?

[mpolak21]

Oh, I never asked: would you have prefered that Wilco use a vocalist other than Feist, use no female on the song, or omit the song from the album entirely?

 

I think they should have got Bill Murray to sing on it.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXAE5hsb-2M

[Guest Speed Racer]

Only if he also provided the lead vocal for Deeper Down.

 

Actually, I would definitely pay to hear a Bill Murray-vocal version of that song.

[jff]

Oh, I never asked: would you have prefered that Wilco use a vocalist other than Feist, use no female on the song, or omit the song from the album entirely?

 

No, Feist is perfectly fine on that song. I think they should use whoever they want to use. I don't have any preference in that regard.

[choo-choo-charlie]

I've just gotta say that I'm amazed at where this thread/conversation has gone. This is why I spend time here.

[MCHowdy]

 

I can see this is going nowhere. I can't take it anymore. UNCLE! I GIVE!

 

 

Well, there's arguing because you believe in something, and then just arguing because you have a rep for doing so on the Wilco board. You fell victim to the latter. I think you made some fine points.

[porkdog324]

Hmmm... I think a lot of Wilco fans are too sophisticated for Wilco

[The High Heat]

Hmmm... I think a lot of Wilco fans are too sophisticated for Wilco

And they are the ones smart enough to stay off this board.

[froggie]

 

I've never felt a soporofic quality to a song is a detractor. I love how calming some songs Tweedy created are. I often use Wilco tunes to slow my heartbeat and fall dead asleep.

 

 

agreed... i can listen to One by One all night without falling asleep! - love it!

[a-me-with-a-you]

I've just gotta say that I'm amazed at where this thread/conversation has gone. This is why I spend time here.

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I think they should have got Bill Murray to sing on it.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXAE5hsb-2M

 

I have a feeling my close surroundings will have to fend off some "I'm kind of fun guy"s randomly interjected into conversations in the near future.

[Sir Stewart]

Bill Murray should've sung lead on "Wilco The Song".

[mpolak21]

Bill Murray should've sung lead on "Wilco The Song".

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjoefTJ14PQ&feature=related