i'm only sleeping Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Yes, according to a recent scientific study ("Sight over sound in the judgment of music performance"): http://www.nature.com/news/musicians-appearances-matter-more-than-their-sound-1.13572?WT.ec_id=NEWS-20130820 Below is the abstract. Full paper here: http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/08/16/1221454110 AbstractSocial judgments are made on the basis of both visual and auditory information, with consequential implications for our decisions. To examine the impact of visual information on expert judgment and its predictive validity for performance outcomes, this set of seven experiments in the domain of music offers a conservative test of the relative influence of vision versus audition. People consistently report that sound is the most important source of information in evaluating performance in music. However, the findings demonstrate that people actually depend primarily on visual information when making judgments about music performance. People reliably select the actual winners of live music competitions based on silent video recordings, but neither musical novices nor professional musicians were able to identify the winners based on sound recordings or recordings with both video and sound. The results highlight our natural, automatic, and nonconscious dependence on visual cues. The dominance of visual information emerges to the degree that it is overweighted relative to auditory information, even when sound is consciously valued as the core domain content. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Mr. Heartbreak Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 In a word: no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Mr. Heartbreak Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 My thoughts exactly. They just stood there and played their instruments. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 too bad their music sucked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Even with the Dead many people really dug watching Bob Weir, who was the good looking member of the group. Of course appearance matters. Musicians are entertainers after all. This may be sad, but true. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Mr. Heartbreak Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Even with the Dead many people really dug watching Bob Weir, who was the good looking member of the group. Of course appearance matters. Musicians are entertainers after all. This may be sad, but true. LouieBAppearances may matter, but in the presentation of music, I can't ever agree that they matter more than the music itself. That was the basis of the thesis here.And tinnitus, you're entitled to your opinion, but the Dead-bashing can get pretty tedious. I don't suppose the Wilco guys would agree with you either, since they just covered Bird Song, Dark Star, Ripple and Friend of the Devil with Bob Weir. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 If I only looked to Wilco for validation of my musical tastes, my collection would take a significant decline in quality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I thought of Phil and Jerry immediately too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost of Electricity Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 yeah, but man, jerry looked, like really weird after those two tabs i dropped. i could totally see his beard growing. and phil's shirt was dancing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lamradio Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I'd hit it.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 yeah, but man, jerry looked, like really weird after those two tabs i dropped. i could totally see his beard growing. and phil's shirt was dancing. ironically, i loved their appearance. the rug, the wires, the speakers and just standing there playing. watching any one of them just play is compelling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ih8music Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I think performers who specifically don't dress up "in costume" are even making a statement about their appearance. What they choose to wear on stage is always a conscious decision. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lamradio Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 "Indie rock is such a bratty culture, and I don't see a lot of ugly people in it, either. I feel very proud to be hideous. Thank God I don't look like every other fucking dude wearing their girlfriend's fucking jeans out there on stage." - Bradford Cox from Deerhunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Even with the Dead many people really dug watching Bob Weir, who was the good looking member of the group. Of course appearance matters. Musicians are entertainers after all. This may be sad, but true. LouieBWell, we have to speak about the whole Artist/Entertainer thing. Many in the Rock idiom are not much more than entertainers - not necessarily a bad thing, but I prefer musical chops more than any 'presentation'. Of course the best of the best are both - Bowie certainly, Gabriel, a few others. I think of the GD as more of a Jazz mindset - they're just practicing their craft onstage, and looks or cheerleading the crowd ("It's SO GREAT to be here in Cleveland!") never figured into it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoJ Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 In my opinion, the old saw "form follows function" applies here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 ironically, i loved their appearance. the rug, the wires, the speakers and just standing there playing. watching any one of them just play is compelling.Bingo. And, I disagree with whoever said that even performers who don't dress up in stage costume are making a statement. A lot of performers just wear whatever the hell they wore all day onto the stage. Of course, what anyone puts on in the morning is a conscious decision/staement I suppose when you get down to it.... Katy Perry should definitely wear what she feels comfortable in, too, on stage such as that outfit she's in above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I agree. I was not making any kind of statement. I just wanted an excuse to put that Katy picture up. I tend to prefer bands that just get up and play with no big thought around dress or choreography but I don't think any less of Lady Gaga, or Beyonce or any others where that is an important part of over all image and why they are successful. I do have an aversion to overly contrived image but I can't say I can tell when someone is more contrived than someone else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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