LouieB

No offence but that is total bullshit. I don't feel that way at all and I am pegged at a crank. LouieB

I have said this repeatedly here...vote third party if you feel like it. I am just TRYING to get all those who think this is a good idea to see it really isn't. Do you have to justify your position? NO!! You can be a selfish bastard and vote for a fellow selfish bastard like Ralph Nader (left) or Bob Bart (right) and that's fine. But if one (not you necessarily) can't see that collective action to get the best possible candidate in office (whether it be Obama or McCain since they are the only ones who have a shot at this thing this year) isn't the best course of action that's fine too. H

Thanks man.....I am working (questionable at the moment I really do have to work) at home today and as soon as I get off here, I plan to go vote early and I guess I have made it clear who I am voting for.... Wish we could party election night..it is going to be great...and you know.....you may take the state of Indiana with you this year...you could make history.... LouieB

As usual Ralph is right and totally wrong.... He certainly has a right to be pissed about being excluded from the debates except he has NO base and is polling in the fraction of a percentage point.....sore fucking loser... As far as an unprecedented career move, Ralph is trying the same fucking thing, except he has NEVER won any elected office and doesn't know how to..(the small article in the New Yorker about him this week is interesting..) Are we going to be disappointed in Obama, of course we are....those of us voting for him aren't as stupid as he makes us out to be. Barack is goi

I met Rich Whitney and a bunch of the IL Green's through my daughter (formerly Tweedys Gurl) one night and it was facinating as well. I am not much of an organizational persion, although I have spent much of my life attending meetings. This was a social gathering and it was as you describe, people who consider themselves outsiders and odd balls. Whitney's wife kept expressing opinions that she kept acting like she was the only one who had them, when in fact they were pretty common leftish opinions and not that unusual. In order to put together an IL slate of candidates (by this time the el

Not really..... Let's see..is Wilco a Chicago hometown band?? Jeff Tweedy lives here with his family (he doesn't live in LA or New York), John lives here with his family (including a young child), Glenn lives here with his family (including a baby), Pat lives here. Both Nels and Mikal spend a ton of time here although one lives west and one lives east I guess. They spent a five night residency here...etc etc. Yea, I think they are from Chicago... Sure there are tons of bands here, but with the possible exception of the Smashing Pumpkins and Fall Out Boy there is not a bigger band

Radiohead is cry in your synth music for the losers....Wilco is party music from Obama's home town band for the winners. Bugged or not, I will continue to sign my name at the bottom.....I started with my first post here many moons ago and don't intend to stop......(considering you only have 22 posts, ....one is to complain about this???) LouieB

Me three.... LouieB

Actually we have voted in the same number I suspect. You missed my discussions with the youngbloods earlier this year about how I didn't vote as a youth because I felt voting wouldn't change anything (anarchist sentiment) so my first vote was 76 for Carter because the president of my local union suggested it might be a good idea. (was heavily into trade unionism in those years...). Also the voting age was 21 when I was 18 otherwise I could have voted in the 68 election. No longer to I advocate NOT voting (age does change one...) and if anyone reads my comments above, clearly I think this is

I am sure it will all be webcasted..some of us can huddle around a computer attached to a big screen TV. LouieB

Yea know...that truly warms my heart....at least you admit it. Seriously. 2008 is an opportunity we can't let go by (the polls are showing a neck and neck race again today, at least on Yahoo...) and waste a single vote on the possibility of a McCain/Palin presidency. I think about this night and day (but frankly other than yacking to you guys and sending Barack some cold hard cash I ain't doing much else about it....) that we can't allow the right wing culture wariorrs to get the best of us (we are all going to become conservatives fiscally before this shitstorm ends...) and therefore we

Wow, we are having an actual logical and informative discussion about the Green Party......this is serious fun.... The Greens have an actual political presence in Europe, where parlimentary government more or less works. I wonder what there record is, where they don't seem like total organizational spazes. 5% is actually a shitload....The closest person to actually accomplishing a third party win as you point out was Ross Perot, one of the nuttier folks on the planet in some ways. John Anderson, the most rational and successful third party candidate I did not remember, only summoned up

The Green Party in IL ran someone for governor (my daughters roommates father in fact) and he got 10% of the vote due to a very bad choice by both parties....(everyone from IL knows who I am talking about...) And a third party like the Greens will get some votes in any election and their platform may have some good points, but frankly organization is NOT the Green's strength at all. They are pretty much a disorganized mess as far as I can tell (mostly white men too..) and when they had their convention here this year(national maybe) they had to borrow money. Contrast that to Barack's campaig

Both Billy and Jeff would approve a vote for Obama.... LouieB

Sure.....which is exactly why I am suggesting that on the night Wilco's choice for president wins...you may not want to listen to them if you didn't support him.....(its a joke!!!! well sort of...) LouieB

Check Laurie's....they have many of these used and the rest they can order for you new.... LouieB

or maybe it is currently hard to believe this is the United States of America. Somewhere along the line it became the Red and Blue States of America instead.... LouieB

I get election day off, so if anyone wants to start early.... LouieB

We are all Socialists now.... LouieB

Excellent idea, but try the late show since the early one is probably sold out (but maybe not...) I had a ticket up until an hour ago, but I gave it away.....edit....there seem to be tix for the early show too....great place to see a show... LouieB

I would have to say I don't think too many states want it repealed since any state, even small ones, like the idea that they can be in play. LouieB

Not really...but I can venture an opinion or two on Memphis..... LouieB

What are you going to do?? LouieB

My guess.....Wilco will play to half or so million people...(all the non-Obama fans can stay home and listen to Radiohead....and feel depressed while the rest of us party our brains out wherever we are...) LouieB

No and yes....(FYI boys take longer than girls.....) LouieB