LouieB

No real time to make any sense of this anymore. If you want to kill deer, go for it. There are limits on it though.. If you want to collect guns, go for it, there apparently are very few limits on that either unless there are. If you want to start killing peope to keep them from taking your guns go for it; there are limits on this too, but you already know that, so deal with the consiquenses. That's what civil disobedience is about. You have to pay the price. Two interesting things not directly related to this thread. There have been sightings of coyotes along the Lakefront in Chi

There is a definite reason for this. The reason NONE of the other stuff we discuss regarding the sensible use and ownership of guns is of any interest to these folks. Kill a deer? Fine!! Not my cup of tea, but you gotta live with killing Bambi's mother. Killing people?? Not okay except under the absolute worst of circumstances (and those pacifists such as Menonites, Quakers, etc. don't even agree with that.). Most of these guns, ammo, and associated equipment issues all have to do with the more effective ways of killing people. They aren't okay for criminals and they shouldn't be okay

I do know that a semi-automatic is NOT a machine gun, so that you have to pull the trigger each time. But you can have a whole lot of bullets depending on the size of the magazine. LouieB

Oh one last thing......not directed at anyone inparticular because those who want guns without any restrictions are not claiming to be right wing nut jobs and I will take them at their word. For months and years we have heard from the right how the government is too big, is too intrusive, spends to much money, etc. etc. etc. Then something like Newtown happens we get calls from a group like the NRA and others that the government need to do more. Give money for guards in all schools, teach teachers to handle guns (while busting their unions and saying they get paid too much and have huge pen

I think I have tried to be reasonable too, so 1-87 (not sure how that works) are all fine. I can even go as far as 275, but the chance fo this being necessary is still pretty slim. But where I have a particular problem is 472. But if all the reasonable issues are in place then none of the proposals being floated by either Obama or any politician should be a problem for you or for the rest of the NRA. You want to target shoot, fine. I have done that. You want a reasonable weapon to kill an intruder? Fine, not my cup of tea, but so it goes. What the hell do people need semi-automatic weap

Brutal. Okay so you can't kill deer with a 22. But you can kill one with a bow and arrow. I wish all we were talking about was killing deer here, because this would at least break out into a fairly clear discussion of people who think it is okay to kill deer and those who don't. But clearly this is not a discussion of killing some varmets for fun or food, it is about killing people. The real discussion is about what does it take to protect yourself from bad people and how to defeat a tyrannical government, both of which entail killing humans, not deer. And it is also a discussion abo

This is all hysteria. Those that can't answer why they need guns except to say that they need them are hysterical. Don't worry y'all you are going to get to keep them and get all you want from here on out too. Its going to be alright. Edit-I do understand collecting stuff; I totally get that, so don't underestimate those of us you think don't understand. If you are out there collecting old guns, cool guns, different types of guns, etc, that is all clear. If you like to go blow shit up, I understand that too. Why sit and watch a movie where shit gets blown up when you can actually do it.

Why do you need more guns? Seriously? See my above posting. I totally understand obessive collecting of stuff. But someone explain the thrill of guns? Is it the firepower, the historical value, the feeling of safety? What? Meanwhile good for Barack for finally picking this up and running with it. Whatever the end result at least he has not kissed the NRA's ass totally this time. LouieB

I just got off the phone with a school in Pekin. Does that count? It was all i could do to stop myself from asking if they knew there was a Wilco song about their town. LouieB

Bought the vinyl with the extra single and the download yesterday. Haven't listened to it yet though. LouieB

I am so glad I am not obessed with much else but buying records and books. I just don't understand anyone's need for guns, unless they like to hunt. I realize people get a rush out of owning these high powered killing machines. I suppose they are fun to blow the shit out of stuff on firing ranges and all (I have fired a few guns in my life so I sort of understand.) but having a bunch of them around the house, YIKES. Even protecting your family against criminals; how much do you need to do that? I would think a simple handgun or a shotgun would do the trick, but what do I know. Clearly no

This is a perfect job for Gerald; he is not only a great drummer, but he can sing and act, he gets to see the world, and he gets to work full time as a musician. It is a win win. Plus the audiences give a shit about being there. LouieB

The fact that he is willing to give it more time is good, or else he is just being polite. So when is the deluxe complete YHF sessions box set coming out? LouieB

Okay rather than argue about stupid stuff, here is something maybe we can all agree upon. Muddy Waters was one of the most famous musicians to ever call Chicago home. Despite his humble beginnings, his musical influence is world wide. Over the years I have found it interesting to take friends and family by his home on the south side of Chicago at 4339 S, Lake Park. It is a two story brick home, which has been vacant for years. Before Christmas I visited there with some folks and the place looked worse than ever. No one lives there and for awhile it appeared that it was being rehabbed. N

I guess no one noticed, the convo is pretty much the 3 of us anyway. LouieB

I think I already stipulated that more gun laws probably won't solve anything. LouieB

I didn't know we could only discuss the opinions discussed here. I didn't know VC had the same rules of evidence as a courtroom. LouieB

Because the total nutballs on your side of the argument want us to believe that the government is coming for us and we have to defend ourselves against the tyrants. Well in a sense they already did (but not as badly as the wacko Libertarians or the militia nut cases would have you believe.) Selectively the right wing has decided that certain things must be legistlated even when the resulting crimes don't hurt anyone or should be left to individuals to make their own personal decisions. The gun lobby, which you are part of by default, uses this argument endlessly and convinces millions of pe

Seemed like a fairly low risk investment, even with the $3 for shipping. LouieB

The same way you get to have arms, within reason. LouieB

Well long ago it became clear to me that reducing the number of guns in this country was dead in the water. So you can have all your guns if you want, but I would prefer the government not regulate what women (or men) do with their own bodies, regulate what they choose to ingest, (within reason), and keep people from marrying whom they want to. LouieB

The shooter in the Newtown killings was an adult too, and I am sure his mother thought she was doing the right thing with her guns as well. Edit-Amazingly there is a totally open market in this country for guns, but marijuana and gay marriage (and lots of other fairly inoccuous things) are still illegal lots of places and not the "law of the land". Crazy. LouieB

Not sad at all. Gerald is certainly not sad that you know him through Justin Roberts (I assume this is his group, since now that my kids are grown I do not buy children's records but would buy his if I still had kids and if I get grandkids) because this is Geralds main job at this point. Kids music has taken Gerald all over the world and helps support his kids as well, much better than gigs with the Flat Five or even Robbie Fulks, or the occasional jazz date that Gerald does. I am just amazed at how many really great drummers there are in Chicago. Maybe there are lots of great drummers in

I suppose the old adage of guns don't kill people, people kill people still applies so one should be able to buy all the guns they want, but clearly when you need to kill someone either because you are crazy, angry or by accident, a gun does one hell of a good job. Keep them locked up people!!! LouieB

Thanks for the reminder on this. I love that they are booked at the Mill in what appears to be an old fashioned club date with multiple sets and what is probably going to be a pretty loose feel. It should be noted that this is the original Flat Five, with (incredible) drummer Gerald Dowd back on drums. So while they may do her solo material, it will also attract fans of the other musicians as well. Expect a line around Broadway to Lawrence to get in. Okay okay, Kelly does not have a distinctive voice in the Neko Case vein, which is why she has always found great success as a back-up s