ZenLunatic

One of the best pitchers of my generation. What a career.

They used Hybrid cars. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081205/bs_nm/...lout_execs_sb_1

You are forgetting one thing. We are AMERICANS!!! The world cannot exist without us. We rule the world. The rest of the world will keep giving until we dont even have to work anymore. Forget about work, why work when we can just borrow or print more money. We are Americans!!! We deserve it.

I saw it on the news last night about yesterdays hearings. Here is the newest on this - http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=952234215&play=1 http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=952199222&play=1

Justice is served.

They drove there. Road Trip. Makes more sense. Also.... The UAW dropped job banks since last meeting which is good thing. The CEOs mentioned they would work for a dollar a year which doesnt make sense to me. Ford seems to think they may now not need help. Seems like a good thing that Congress rejected the bailout last time, seems like a good thing for them to do it again. Now instead of $25 billion they want $34 billion this time. How does that work? You know my opinion, forget it.

Took a break from watching and they have grown. They look a bit bigger and stronger. I think also moved to a new spot.

you should watch A Fistful of Dollars with Clint Eastwood and see how much they stole from Yojimbo.

i like you EL the Famous, lets dose together.

What is there to defend there? I dont blame the employees for the failure either, no one does, its the leaders of the companies. The leaders of the companies ran it into the ground.

Drop Acid not Bombs.

You were the one defending the auto industry because the people in Detroit losing their jobs and how it was wrong to let it happen because of the the jobs. Anyways.... cant you move to a smaller place to save money? I dont know your situation.

Hey, if all your friends and familes are out of work and moneyless, then we can talk. Although people should save money, its not just that, its more about thinking that a job taken away is like a right taken away. Just dont think that there's anything less cause you have less money. Money comes and goes. Dont forget the secret of the sea.

So, thats a start of what we need. They definitely need to cut jobs, plants, and dealers. Cut salaries. I think also cut many full product lines. Keep only the best selling ones. Slim and lean operations. UAW needs to be completely redone. Let's hear those plans to start. How can you justify the not selling because of low price of your assets that can be sold off when you are in the midst of going bankrupt? If its sellable and you need money, you have to sell whatever the price. Would you rather go bankrupt with all those assets and lose everything at once?

We all effect one another, but how you handle what happens in your life it is soley on you. You cant blame anyone for the way your life turned out but yourself or you'll never understand. Maybe you need to get a smaller place. Friends and family will help out.

Yeah I actually did. I want an energy plan that involves renewable sources. I think this is the future. I think we could spend money there if anywhere. Of course this would mean we cant spend on other things.

The life you live is completely your own making, you have to take all responsibilities for it. Your happiness is a choice. The government is just not supporting a flawed system that people were a part of. Its a shame that many hardworking people are victims to this, but these things are a part of life. If you believe in yourself you will still have a good life, just not the way you imagined it.

Some people wont find jobs, some people will. I'm not saying I will ever find a job or everyone would. We are headed in new territory, so what, dont be scared. I am optimistic in that we will find our way out. We just cant support an industry just so a group of people can have their jobs safe. Its a drain on the whole country. The failure of the auto industry will not topple this country. Either the foreign car companies will take over or a new US company will emerge.

Well we as a government can help with unemployment like what Bush signed today. We can also try to create new jobs through tax relief on companies starting out. We can spend money on infrastructure of an energy plan to create new jobs. There's alot we can do, but what we cant do is support failing businesses with bad models. Someone will be able to make the car companies work, it may not be the existing people, but someone will. Well whose fault is it if you create a life where a job loss means devastation? My life would change alot if I lost my job, but I know I could get by. People w

I guess thats why you cant understand my stance.

Likelihood of me losing my job is pretty high, maybe not as high as GM workers, but still up there. We will see unemployment rise alot more from here. Alot of people will be in this situation. If we try to save GM, it can take jobs away from other industries. It's not like GM will lose every employee if they dont get bailout. They will file Chapter11 which will make them drastically reduce in size which is what is needed. There will still be functioning plants and dealers with employees. America is being forced to downsize by market forces. Most companies will go through this. I wo

News - GM returns leased private jets for travel after receiving harsh scrutiny. America is us. We as americans are suffering and will suffer. If I lose my job, than I am fine with that. Short-term is in the next 4-5 years, but who knows maybe longer.

Thats true in and of itself. What if your job means you are making other people suffer? Is it still worth it? A job isnt good unless you are working for the good of your society.

Thats a sad story and there will be many stories like that in this recession. It's already happening right now to alot of people. There really isnt anything you can do about it except start to look for new work and get by. GM is already planned to close plants regardless of bailout. There is only so much the government can do. They should do what they can to help this situation, but like you said dont throw good money away. The problem is even clearer after the auto hearings in Washington, where the CEO's flew in their private jets and just flat out asked for billions without a real pla

When it comes to down to it the collapse of the auto companies will hurt America in the short term. More companies go out of business, more job loss, and everything else to worsen the recession. In the long run, it is better for America. We can start to build a new model for the US automakers that work now. Lets stop wasting money now. There will be a better Detriot only if we let bad Detriot go. We have to stop thinking short term here in America. Lets bear through the pain now for the sake of a good future of America.