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1990 - Jellyfish - Bellybutton
1991 - Uncle Tupelo - Still Feel Gone
1992 - XTC - Nonesuch
1993 - Uncle Tupelo - Anodyne
1994 - Guided By Voices - Bee Thousand
1995 - Son Volt - Trace
1996 - Scud Mountain Boys - Massachusetts
1997 - Bob Dylan - Time Out of Mind
1998 - Richard Buckner - Since
1999 - The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
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I don't know if I'm ready to call Bob the greatest songwriter of all time or if he's way ahead of his time. I don't think of him in those terms. I do think he's one the greatest melodicists of our time. He's certainly prolific, and out of his vast catalogue there are 200-300 songs that are as good as just about anything ever released. So, if the amount of good songs equates greatest ever, then so be it.
I understand and agree with both of you up to a point that Bob could "perhaps' benefit from an editor-in-chief. One to keep him in check and oversee that brain of his that contains 'The Book of Rock' Volumes 1-100. Truth be told, I'm somewhat ambivalent of this notion. Really, how many bands, songwriters, etc, that are actually good, can you compare to Bob. Not many. One of a kind. While it does affect my pocketbook, I say, F- it, let him do want he wants. It's like 'learning how to hunt' (no pun intended), to pick and choose and find the gems within.
The promise is always better than the real thing.
For the record :
Crawling Distance - 2-3 good songs, One great song in No Island.
Gringo - actually has 5-6 good songs to add to the Pollard (Semi) Acoustic Songlist.
Cosmos - Go play Zeppelin Commander 3 times and tell me what you think.
The GbV catalogue is unfuckwithable
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Guided by Voices
Uncle Tupelo
Son Volt
Wilco
Teenage Fanclub
Sparklehorse
Richard Buckner
PJ Harvey
Joe Henry
Gillian Welch
Joe Pernice related works
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I think it would take a really good documentary about Pollard for him to get more exposure or at least some of what he deserves.
I think he's great song writer but I always think back to batting average when I think of Pollard's body of work. He hits a home run every so often, gets on base a few times, but man does he ever strike out and often.
And Suitcase 3 is out on Nov. 3. Get you pre-orders here. Get your two previews here.
200+ (A) rated songs still gets him into the hall of fame.
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I'm not sure it has anything to do with weird noises, but rather the *energy* and the complete artistic change. The Lips are an older band than both Wilco and Radiohead(still considered their peers), but Embryonic is just crackling with vitality and the energy of a 25 YO rock band that sounds excited and driven. This is in stark contrast to the lower energy MOR released by their peers.
With Embryonic, the Flaming Lips have the vitality, drive and energy that Wilco and Radiohead seemed to circa 1998-2000. That is mindblowing.
but are the "songs" mindblowing ? Dunno. Ordered a copy today.
I can say for certainty that the songs on The Soft Bulletin are definitely that.
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Open Road is it, I'm telling you all.
"Don't let the changes get you down man"
Hope so - Looking forward to it.
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As much as I look forward to this as well, I'd be more excited if Gillian's new record was getting some sort of announcement. She's waaaay overdue.
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I guess I said this on the other thread, but I got to see Donovan in the early 70s. I like his Hickory label stuff particularly, when he was trying hard to sound like Dylan. I also like from his relatively late period an album called Open Road. This is long out of print I think, but well worth trying to find at your local used record store.
(actually it looks like it has been reissued.)
LouieB
Ordered
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most GBV fans seem united in their opinion that not only is Pollard the greatest songwriter of all time, but that, eventually, he will be regarded as such.
I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on what it is about his music, his songs, etc., that make him ahead of his time, so to speak?
I am a big fan. I am just really fascinated by not only the stunning songs themselves, but how far under the radar he is.
An excerpt from an interview with Bob in Sept. '07
JH:
What about the people who compare you to all the great American songwriters and try to figure out where you stand? Are you in the top 10?
RP:
It’s too complicated. It’s all out there, and it’s hard to distinguish what’s good and what’s not good, what’s supposed to be good and what my intentions are. It’s harder to judge whether I’m one of the great songwriters because there’s just too much stuff. My point is that I just don’t care. People have pointed out to me before that I dilute my brilliance, or whatever you want to call it, by putting out too much shit. I don’t care. That’s my modus operandi and how I work. I’ve been in top hundred, top 50 songwriters of the last 20 years, 40 years. I’ve been in those things, which is very flattering, but it’s hard to tell whether I’m a better songwriter than Ray Davies. Or as good, or comparable. Or Pete Townshend. Because those guys are great songwriters. I’m sure I have some songs that stand up to some of their best songs, but like I said, my stuff is just so spread out, there’s so much that it’s hard to compare me with anyone else. I guess I’d have to be the most prolific songwriter, I would think. A lot of people say prolific’s just another word for just putting out a bunch of shit, but whatever. I’ve probably put out 2,000 songs on records. There’s probably another 5,000 that haven’t been out. I put out records and I release records that I like. If some people say that compare to some of the great songwriters, then that’s great. I’ve got so many songs, everyone has their favorites. I’m sure because I have so many, that makes it easier for the percentage of good songs that I do have to be up there with other people that have written a lot of good songs. I would say a lot of people would agree that I’ve at least written 15 or 20 really really good songs, and I would say that that’s probably good. The rest of it, depends on who you talk to. Depends on if you’re talking to me. There’s a lot of songs I’ve written that I think are good, and other people disagree. It depends on what you think a good song is.
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I wasn't expecting to see another album so soon after 'Hombre'. Whilst I do love 'hombre' I am hoping for a more varied and ecletic bunch of songs this time around.
Wow. I didn't realize E had it in him. Great news. While I was a bit disappointed in Hombre, it did have one of his best "songs", in That Look You Give That Guy.
Thanks for the info Bigideas & Frank.
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Just heard that Disc 4 on Suitcase 3 scheduled to drop on Nov. 3rd will be an acoustic session by Pollard, Tobin Sprout, and Greg Demos in 1994-1995 (the period between GBV classics Bee Thousand and Alien Lanes).
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You can click on the song you want to know about in this section (Category: Donovan songs) and it will take you to the album page.
Thanks A-man
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Did that strip away your "at least Richie Havens popularized one song of his own" belief?
(okay, 'Freedom', I see now, is his)
Funny you mention it, but yes, it did.
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That's not a cover.
I think that the greatest hits version of Catch the Wind (or the one I have) is actually a live version from the late 1960s, early 1970s - a tv show i'd imagine or radio session as the sound is very good. It's got a full band production too.
edit: got that slightly wrong - they are studio versions, just re-recorded for the greatest hits. not tv/radio versions.
Wow, you're right. I had no idea. I always thought Ritchie wrote it.
Do you know of Donovans's association with Shawn Phillips in the early seventies ? He claims he co-wrote a few songs without credit.
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Donovan Songs To Love
Catch The Wind (Original Vinyl Greatest Hits Version
Is the vinyl version different from the CD?
Also, I'd like to add his cover of Ritchie Haven's Season of The Witch.
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How about Heartless Bastards- The Mountain? It's one of my favorites of the year.
The opening title track is great -
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Did everyone who listed the new Boston Spaceships record buy it? I can't find it online anywhere, and despite not totally loving the first two singles, I'm really interested since I've heard so much awesome press for it.
Yes. It was purchased from The Factory of Raw Essentials
http://www.thefactoryofrawessentials.com/boston_spaceships.html
What are the two singles - Question Girl & How Wrong You Are ?
I think both are great. That said, there are 8-9 others songs which are as good or better.
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I'm still really liking: The Cribs - Ignore the Ignorant
RIYL ?
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Good to see a lot of Linkous fans round here. If anyone is interested in a collected works of all of his b-sides, EP's, non-album tracks, etc.. shoot me a PM and I'll up it later tonight. It's a must if you're a fan.
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The final track is indeed Mr. Lynch. The one that preceeds it (Grim Augery) is Vic Chesnutt. What do you think of the record? It has a couple of average songs but on the whole I love it. The Flaming Lips and Jason Lytle tracks are especially good, as is the one by the guy from the Strokes. I'm not sure what the latest is with this record and an official release date.
Cool, I thought so. As a whole, the record's surprisingly good. It doesn't hurt that I'm a fan of Mark Linkous as well.
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At this point in the year, I can't imagine anything knocking off Boston Spaceships as the record of the year. The others are solid as well.
boston spaceships - zero to 99
reigning sound - love & curses
el goodo - coyote
son volt - american central dust
tim easton - porcupine
Robert Pollard, Etc.
in Someone Else's Song
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I love his purposeful out of tune vocal in the first verse. The one that bugs me is two songs preceding. I know I Am A Tree is a Gillard song, but the metaphors are just plain dumb.