Central Scrutinizer

The beginning of this thread says 5,000.

I think it was because you brought up Chipolte on an empty stomach.

How did you come to try Chipolte? Did someone recommend it? Did you ask about it before you ventured upon it? The first time you sought it out. Why? It's not of my business, but you didn't happen upon an impromptu Chipolte. Someone developed the menu, decor, entrees, determined dining layout, how customers would be seated, waited on -- the dining experience all hammered out to entice you or people you know who would recommend meeting there. If you go with someone, and order different entrees, you may offer each other a taste. Even if you went to Chipolte the first time alone, as you listened

I was taking your comments directly, and not considering them within the context of the discussion, and may in fact have been subconsciously addressing the two posts (although I thought I took them in order ). So I apologize if that was the case. But to address your first paragraph, I think it is unavoidable that it becomes your business because you are interacting with other people and that interaction colors your views -- even if it's "how the intercourse did these idiots turn their computer on, let alone log into Via Chicago?!?" O.K. On your simple statement I heartily concur.

See, but I think this is exactly why it IS your business. The artist creates outside of you, and without audience and response (critique) it is an empty exercise. The artist would have no reason to leave his living room, no reason to open the door so that any sound could get out. It is how you assimilate the music that develops your taste (I like this, I don't like that, he sounds like the other guy). If it was not your business, or you had no intrinsic value in sharing your opinion or building and exploring your tastes, you wouldn't be on a band bulletin board; you wouldn't be commenting on o

You can visualize it however you want. The most likely explanation I can offer is that it's cross-intuitive: Wilco band members evolve the composition and performance of a song based on crowd reaction, fan reaction and their own reaction because the tastes of artist and fans has to be symbiotic to maintain the music community. You think all the pissing and moaning of Nels Cline and his "shredding" don't get back to the band, don't pummel the artist enough that he/they don't take a step back, say "*% that" and take another tack? In short, I think within the relationship of artist and fan, e

If you are suggesting that a band trying out material live before recording is indifferent to the audience's response, that how a song is played is not affected by how people respond to it -- in person, as a live audience or comments on a fan site, that's silly.

These are some great points, particularly on how the album was packaged. I know a lot of people railed One Wing on the list when it was played live. I think it was definitely a case of the band seeing the song going one way, but fan response caused them to change up the song by the time it was recorded. I thought it had promise initially, but I think the arguments of thrashing excess were probably accurate. This may not make sense but I think the song has an unfinished feel, because it never became the song they envisioned because it wasn't one that fans seemed to want. I approached A.M. l

I disagree with this. I think they marketed this album directly to its strengths -- a collection of songs without a common theme; a fun album (yes, acknowledging it has a "fun" song like BBN). Of all their albums this has the least flow to it IMHO -- competing perhaps with AM, which is more cohesive just because stylistically there isn't enough of a range to veer off course. This current line up went from meticulous structure (SBS) which may have missed with listeners because it was more a sum-of-the-whole, while W(TA) may have missed with listeners because it was unstructured, parts-greater

I've always found Richie Havens so enigmatic. You watch the way he plays, and it's such a seemingly simplified style, yet it's a style that his voice wraps around. With those huge hands, you think he could play a much more refined style. But his is a percussive style, keeping time, a groove embodied in that thumb up and down the neck and that throbbing foot. His trance-like state when he sings, lost in the rhythm, in the words and so expressive. If I could categorize him anywhere, it would be along with Joe Cocker. I wonder if I would have ever survived a whole concert of his, but for an inspi

"avant-roots" ? Is this yet another sub-genre name?

I'm very depressed, I had nothing but problems linking to either webcast. Last night it went dead after the pre-show music and I could not get anything to access -- multiple browsers, restarting computer. had a good internet connection. Nada Very depressed.

How many bedrooms do you have?

Too late

I propose Via Chicago have a tent at this event.

Nope. For whatever reason it cut out at the start of Jesus, etc. Thanks for heads up. I'm on a Mac platform.

I was able to work the bugs out of the recording software I got (iRecordMusic 1.6) and it seemed to do fine. Now splitting tracks is my next great adventure. I tried splitting the first few in process but I need to find a better way.

Even the daytime shows?

I think one of the most interesting things about this project is that it gives each band member a venue to showcase their side projects before an appreciative audience. Jeff Tweedy has been accused of being manipulative, opportunistic and heartless in his treatment of former bandmates, but this is a credit to being a band with a capital B. I also didn't see anything mentioned about Loose Fur ... just saying.

You mean like some old geezers thrown together in a band with Ken Coomer or Leroy Bach?

I am having/have had problems with just about every webcast on wilcoworld.net. I've tried different browsers, rebooting. It's always cutting out, or just going dead. I wonder if it isn't a problem with comcast. I hate to even get my hopes up to try to listen. rats.

I think the recording software automatically mutes - at least that's what I hope. I got on firefox and can hear the audio just fine.

You're hearing something?

Me too. The second webcast clinched it for me to pony up $ for shareware. I figure tonight will be a trial run. If it works, bonus, but at least I can get the kinks out and give it another go tomorrow. The software creates an AIFF file, then converts it into the selected format. Given the expected less-than-stellar quality, I'll save the AIFF but allow it to format in some lossy file. The idea of allowing the software to split tracks based on audio has me a bit unnerved. Here goes nothing.

Aww man! You gave it away!