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  1. I haven't ridiculed you. Calm down and have a little fun.

     

    That's what I have been doing........I have read some clueless posts by others on this forum over time but I don't feel the need to comment on them.......The fact that you commented here on something I posted on another thread in fun took some of the enjoyment out of it for me.......I have a pretty good sense of humor and can roll with the punches as well as the next guy, I just didn't catch your humor........By the way, I'm really and Islander fan so I share hockey futility with you.......

  2. Damn man, I’d hate to live in your world - you know, sometimes shit just happens. The media blows everything out of proportion, if it’s not this, then it’s shark attacks or killer bees - but what it isn’t, is some sort of grand conspiracy to distract us from something else.

     

     

    I live in the same world as you my friend........I don't think you are crazy for what you believe to be truth.......It is called respecting other's opinions.......It is really hard to express oneself or contribute to discussions on this forum without all the sophomoric BS? I never said it was a grand conspiracy. I just provided some perspective on the death rate compared to chicken pocs......I don't care if it's the government or the media doing it, but it is a distraction from other important issues.......I guess shit happens all the time then, according to your responses to anything I've ever posted here on political issues......You might be right because I held the very same opinions you hold on certain matters at one time but I have blended some of what I have learned over the past few years to what I once held as true belief when I was younger.......I have never voted for a Republican in my life and I am a liberal as they come......But I no longer see either party as being different from the other and I have come to believe that most of what you call good old democratic debate is manufactured debate to keep the those in power in power.........Left/right, Liberal/conservative, Democrat/Republican, it's all bullshit.......The only way to change this country is to break that paradigm.......I'm sorry I don't see this so called epidemic as something to worry about.......When taken in perspective you have just as much chance to die from this disease as terrorism, slim to none.....As all flu viruses, they mutate and become weaker as the pass from host to host.......The worst has probably passed......But I wouldn't be surprised if some sinister motive is behind it either political or economical. Sometimes someone is stirring the shit......

  3. These conspiracy theories are as silly as listing the same album twice while ranking Wilco's albums.

     

     

    Man, can you give it a rest?.......Did I offend you in some way or do you need to ridicule all forum members that you don't agree with? Let's grow up a little bit.....Just trying to put some perspective on this......

  4. You guys are funny dudes..........I'll make sure I check with you first to get your approval before I post anything else in the future.......I don't particularly care for the versions of the songs on ST, AGIB and YHF (too much noise) so I would listen to the first three albums listed over again before I would listen to the three I left out and take KT for the live versions of the few songs I do like from the other three........It's just that simple

  5. More people die from chicken pocs each year in the USA than this flu is ever going to kill......This is being blown out of proportion to scare us or distract us for some reason.....

     

    Can a healthy person who gets varicella die from the disease?

     

    Yes. Many of the deaths and complications from chickenpox occur in previously healthy children and adults. From 1990 to 1994, before a vaccine was available, about 50 children and 50 adults died from chickenpox every year; most of these persons were healthy or did not have a medical illness (such as cancer) that placed them at higher risk of getting severe chickenpox. Since 1999, states have been encouraged to report chickenpox deaths to CDC. These reports have shown that some deaths from chickenpox continue to occur in healthy, unvaccinated children and adults. Most of the healthy adults who died from chickenpox contracted the disease from their unvaccinated children.

     

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/varice...is-faqs-gen.htm

  6. My question is if anyone actually voted for him expecting change, as opposed to a man with a different method of shoveling out the same shit.

     

     

    I was hoping without much confidence for the first but had a sneaking suspicion we would get the second..........And I think that is what is going on unfortunately.........His economic advisers are worms and the neocons seem pretty happy with his foreign policy for the most part......

  7. Have fun......

     

    http://www.realhistoryarchives.com/collect...jfk/basicev.htm

     

    http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/The_critics/F...th_Specter.html

     

    ARRB's Doug Horne,

     

    Who was Chief Analyst for Military Records" on the staff of the ARRB;

    and played a major role in handling numerous matters pertaining to the

    medical evidence and the Zapruder film. ...

     

    "QUOTE FROM DOUG HORNE (as posted on Education Forum):

     

    "David Lifton's thesis in his 1981 book "Best Evidence" has been

    validated by the work of the ARRB staff. Our unsworn interviews and

    depositions of Dallas (Parkland Hospital) medical personnel and

    Bethesda autopsy participants confirm that the President's body

    arrived at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a markedly different condition

    than it was in when seen at Parkland for life-saving treatment. My

    conclusion is that wounds were indeed altered and bullets were indeed

    removed prior to the autopsy at Bethesda Naval Hospital. This

    procedure altered the autopsy conclusions and presented a false

    picture of how the shooting took place. In most essential details,

    David Lifton "got it right" in his 1981 bestseller. (He has modified

    his views since his book was published on the "when" and "where," and

    I concur with his changes, which he will publish at a later date.)

    END OF QUOTE"

     

    The Horne Report:

     

    May 15, 2006 Press Conference:

     

    Prepared Remarks by Douglas P. Horne,

     

    Former Chief Analyst for Military Records, Assassination Records Review

    Board (ARRB)

     

    I served on the staff of the Assassination Records Review Board for just

    over three years, from August 1995 through September 1998. During that

    period of time the Review Board granted permission for the staff to take

    the depositions of 10 persons involved in the autopsy on President

    Kennedy: as a result, today any American citizen can go to the "Archives

    II" facility in College Park, Maryland and obtain copies of the

    transcripts of the sworn testimony of the 3 autopsy pathologists; both of

    the official Navy photographers; both Navy x-ray technicians; a Navy

    photographer's mate who developed some of the post-mortem photography; and

    both of the FBI agents who witnessed the autopsy.

     

    The Review Board's charter was simply to locate and declassify

    assassination records, and to ensure they were placed in the new "JFK

    Records Collection" in the National Archives, where they would be freely

    available to the public. Although Congress did not want the ARRB to

    reinvestigate the assassination of President Kennedy, or to draw

    conclusions about the assassination, the staff did hope to make a

    contribution to future 'clarification' of the medical evidence in the

    assassination by conducting these neutral, non-adversarial, fact-finding

    depositions. All of our deposition transcripts, as well as our written

    reports of numerous interviews we conducted with medical witnesses, are

    now a part of that same collection of records open to the public. Because

    of the Review Board's strictly neutral role in this process, all of these

    materials were placed in the JFK Collection without comment.

     

    I have been studying these records for 10 years now. The reason I am here

    today is because contained within our deposition transcripts and interview

    reports is unequivocal evidence that there was a U.S. government cover-up

    of the medical evidence in the Kennedy assassination, yet most members of

    the public know nothing about this. Let me sound a cautionary note here:

    no single statement of any witness stands alone. Before it can be properly

    evaluated, the recollections of each witness must be compared to all of

    his own previous testimony, and to that of other witnesses-before the

    Warren Commission, the House Select Committee on Assassinations, and even

    with independent researchers-as well as all available documentary

    evidence.

     

    Having said this, after considerable study of all of these records, I am

    firmly convinced that there is serious fraud in the medical evidence of

    the Kennedy assassination in three areas:

     

    (1) The autopsy report in evidence today, Warren Commission Exhibit # 387,

    is the third version prepared of that report; it is not the sole version,

    as was claimed for years by those who wrote it and signed it.

     

    (2) The brain photographs in the National Archives that are purported to

    be photographs of President Kennedy's brain are not what they are

    represented to be; they are not pictures of his brain, but rather are

    photographs of someone else's brain. Normally, in cases of death due to

    injury to the brain, the brain is examined one or two weeks following the

    autopsy on the body, and photographs are taken of the pattern of damage.

    Following President Kennedy's autopsy, there were two subsequent brain

    examinations, not one: the first examination was of the President's brain,

    and those photographs were never introduced into the official record; the

    second examination was of a fraudulent specimen, whose photographs were

    subsequently introduced into the official record. The pattern of damage

    displayed in these 'official' brain photographs has nothing whatsoever to

    do with the assassination in Dallas, and in fact was undoubtedly used to

    shore up the official conclusion that President Kennedy was killed by a

    shot from above and behind.

     

    (3) There is something seriously wrong with the autopsy photographs of the

    body of President Kennedy. It definitely is President Kennedy in the

    photographs, but the images showing the damage to the President's head do

    not show the pattern of damage observed by either the medical

    professionals at Parkland hospital in Dallas, or by numerous witnesses at

    the military autopsy at Bethesda Naval hospital. These disparities are

    real and are significant, but the reasons remain unclear. There are only

    three possible explanations for this, and I will discuss these

    possibilities today.

     

    The Autopsy Report

     

    The evidence that a draft autopsy report-as well as a first signed

    version-existed prior to the report in evidence today is both easy to

    understand, and undeniable.

     

    The First Draft

     

    On November 24, 1963 the chief pathologist at President Kennedy's autopsy,

    Dr. James J. Humes, signed a typed statement he had prepared that read as

    follows:

     

    "I, James J. Humes, certify that I have destroyed by burning certain

    preliminary draft notes relating to Naval Medical School Autopsy Report

    A63-272 and have officially transmitted all other papers related to this

    report to higher authority." [Author's emphasis]

     

    On two occasions before the HSCA, in March of 1977 and in September of

    1978, Dr. Humes maintained that he had destroyed notes. He repeated this

    claim in an interview published by the Journal of the American Medical

    Association in May of 1992. The reasons given in each case were that the

    notes were destroyed because they had on them the blood of the President,

    which Dr. Humes deemed unseemly.

     

    The ARRB General Counsel, Jeremy Gunn, had reason to suspect that an early

    draft of the autopsy report had also been destroyed, based upon an

    analysis of inconsistencies between Dr. Humes' previous testimony about

    when he wrote the draft report, and existing records documenting its

    transmission to higher authority. After extremely thorough and persistent

    questioning by the Review Board's General Counsel in February of 1996, Dr.

    Humes admitted, under oath, that both notes from the autopsy, and a first

    draft of the autopsy report (which had been prepared well after the

    autopsy's conclusion and had no blood on it), had been destroyed in his

    fireplace.

     

    The First Signed Version

     

    A simple study of the receipt trail for the transmission of the autopsy

    report reveals that the first signed report is missing as well.

     

    On April 26, 1965 the Secret Service transferred the autopsy photographs

    and x-rays, and certain vital documents and biological materials to the

    custody of the Kennedy family at the request of Robert F. Kennedy. That

    receipt lists, among other things:

     

    "Complete autopsy protocol of President Kennedy (orig, & 7 cc's)-Original

    signed by Dr. Humes, pathologist."

     

    Evelyn Lincoln, secretary to the late President Kennedy, signed for

    receipt of all of the items the same day.

     

    Incredibly, on October 2, 1967 the head of the Secret Service signed a

    letter transferring the original of CE 387, the autopsy report placed in

    evidence by the Warren Commission, to the National Archives; the National

    Archives signed a receipt for CE 387 the next day, October 3, 1967.

     

    Warren Commission Chief Counsel J. Lee Rankin, in a declassified

    transcript of a January 27, 1964 Executive Session of the Commission,

    discusses details of the content of "the autopsy report" which are not

    consistent with the details of the report in evidence today, CE 387, thus

    confirming that the first signed version contained different conclusions.

     

    The dilemma presented here can best be summarized by the following

    rhetorical question: How could the U.S. Secret Service transfer the

    original JFK autopsy protocol to the National Archives (or to anyone else,

    for that matter) on October 2, 1967 when they had previously given it to

    the Kennedy family on April 26, 1965? The answer, of course, is that there

    were two separate reports. The first smooth, or signed version, was given

    to the Kennedy family at the specific request of Robert Kennedy, and has

    disappeared. The second signed version is in the National Archives today.

     

    Conclusion

     

    The destruction of both the first draft and the first signed version of

    the autopsy report are clear evidence of the ongoing malleability of the

    autopsy report's specific conclusions during the initial 2 weeks following

    the conclusion of the post mortem examination. Furthermore, it is clear

    that when Dr. Humes testified under oath to the Review Board that there

    was only one autopsy report, and that he only signed one autopsy report,

    he committed perjury.

     

    [For those interested in obtaining copies of the relevant documents in the

    receipt trail, or in studying the likely content of the first two versions

    of the autopsy protocol, I will make copies of the relevant research memo

    available at the end of the press conference.]

     

    Two Brain Examinations

     

    My most remarkable finding while on the Review Board staff, and a totally

    unexpected one, was that instead of one supplemental brain examination

    being conducted following the conclusion of President Kennedy's autopsy,

    as was expected, two different examinations were conducted, about a week

    apart from each other. A thorough timeline analysis of available

    documents, and of the testimony of autopsy witnesses taken by the ARRB,

    revealed that the remains of President Kennedy's badly damaged brain were

    examined on Monday morning, November 25, 1963 prior to the state funeral,

    and that shortly thereafter the brain was turned over to RADM Burkley,

    Military Physician to the President; a second brain examination, of a

    fraudulent specimen, was conducted sometime between November 29th and

    December 2nd, 1963-and it is the photographs from this second examination

    that are in the National Archives today.

     

    Pertinent Facts Regarding the Two Examinations are as follows:

     

    First Brain Exam, Monday, November 25th, 1963

     

    Attendees: Dr. Humes, Dr. Boswell, and Navy civilian photographer John

    Stringer.

     

    Events: John Stringer testified to the ARRB that he used both Ektachrome

    E3 color positive transparency film, and B & W Portrait Pan negative film;

    both were 4 by 5 inch format films exposed using duplex film holders; he

    only shot superior views of the intact specimen-no inferior views; the

    pathologists sectioned the brain, as is normal for death by gunshot wound,

    with transverse or "coronal" incisions-sometimes called "bread loaf"

    incisions-in order to trace the track of the bullet or bullets; and after

    each section of tissue was cut from the brain, Stringer photographed that

    section on a light box to show the damage.

     

    Second Brain Exam, Between November 29th and December 2nd, 1963

     

    Attendees: Dr. Humes, Dr. Boswell, Dr. Finck, and an unknown Navy

    photographer.

     

    Events: Per the testimony of all 3 pathologists, the brain was not

    sectioned, as should have been normal procedure for any gunshot wound to

    the head-that is, transverse or coronal sections were not made. The brain

    looked different than it did at the autopsy on November 22nd, and Dr.

    Finck wrote about this in a report to his military superior on February 1,

    1965. The color slides of the brain specimen in the National Archives were

    exposed on "Ansco" film, not Ektachrome E3 film; and the B & W negatives

    are also on "Ansco" film, and originated in a film pack (or magazine), not

    duplex holders. The brain photos in the Archives show both superior and

    inferior views, contrary to what John Stringer remembers shooting, and

    there are no photographs of sections among the Archives brain photographs,

    which is inconsistent with Stringer's sworn testimony about what he

    photographed.

     

    Further indications that the brain photographs in the Archives are not

    President Kennedy's brain are as follows:

     

    Two ARRB medical witnesses, former FBI agent Frank O'Neill and Gawler's

    funeral home mortician Tom Robinson, both recalled vividly that the major

    area of tissue missing from President Kennedy's brain was in the rear of

    the brain. The brain photos in the Archives do not show any tissue missing

    in the rear of the brain, only in the top.

     

    When former FBI agent Frank O'Neill viewed the Archives brain photographs

    during his deposition, he said that the photos he was viewing could not be

    President Kennedy's brain because when he viewed the removed brain at the

    autopsy, the damage was so great that more than half of it was

    gone-missing. He described the brain photos in the Archives as depicting a

    virtually intact brain.

     

    Finally, the weight of the brain recorded in the supplemental autopsy

    report was 1500 grams, which exceeds the average weight of a normal,

    undamaged male brain. This is entirely inconsistent with a brain which was

    over half missing when observed at autopsy.

    Conclusions

     

    The conduct of a second brain examination on a fraudulent specimen, and

    the introduction of photographs of that specimen into the official record,

    was designed to do two things:

     

    (1) eliminate evidence of a fatal shot from the front, which was evident

    on the brain removed at autopsy and examined on Monday, November 25th,

    1963; and

     

    (2) place into the record photographs of a brain with damage generally

    consistent with having been shot from above and behind.

     

    Until I discovered that the photographs in the Archives could not be of

    President Kennedy's brain, the brain photos had been used by 3 separate

    investigative bodies-the Clark Panel, the Rockefeller Commission, and the

    House Select Committee on Assassinations-to support the Warren

    Commission's findings that President Kennedy was shot from above and

    behind, and to discount the expert observations from Parkland hospital in

    Dallas that President Kennedy had an exit wound in the back of his head.

     

    In my opinion, the brain photographs in the National Archives, along with

    Dr. Mantik's Optical Densitometry analysis of the head x-rays, are two

    irrefutable examples of fraud in this case, and call into question the

    official conclusions of all prior investigations.

     

    [For those who wish detailed verification of this hypothesis, the 32-page

    research paper on this subject that I completed in 1998 will be made

    available at the end of this press conference.]

     

    The Head Wound in the Autopsy Photographs

     

    I would like to conclude with some brief closing remarks about the autopsy

    photographs at the National Archives.

     

    The images of the President's head wound are inconsistent with both the

    Parkland hospital observations, and the Bethesda autopsy observations of

    almost every witness present in the morgue, as follows:

     

    Parkland Hospital

     

    The blowout, or exit wound in the right rear of the head seen in Dallas is

    not present in the autopsy images, which show the back of the head to be

    intact except for a very small puncture interpreted by the HSCA as a wound

    of entry. Furthermore, the autopsy photographs of the head show extensive

    damage to the top of the head, and to the right side of the head, which

    was not seen in Dallas during the 40 minutes that the President was

    observed in trauma room one at Parkland hospital.

     

    Bethesda Naval Hospital

     

    Most witnesses from the autopsy also recall a very large wound at the back

    of the head, which, as stated above, is not shown in the autopsy

    photographs. The additional damage many autopsy witnesses recall at the

    top of the head, and on the right side, is present in the photographs-but

    not the damage they remember at the rear. One prominent witness, Dr.

    Ebersole (the radiologist at the autopsy), testified under oath to the

    HSCA Forensic Pathology Panel in 1978 that the large head wound in the

    autopsy photos is more lateral and more superior than he remembered, and

    said that he recalled the back of the head being missing at the autopsy.

     

    Three Possible Explanations. There are 3 possible explanations for these inconsistencies:

     

    (1) Photographic forgery-i.e., "special effects"-to make the rear of the

    head look intact when it was not;

     

    (2) Major manipulation of loose, and previously reflected scalp from

    elsewhere on the head by the pathologists, so as to make it appear that

    the back of the head was intact when it was not; or

     

    (3) Partial reconstruction of the head by the morticians, at the direction

    of the pathologists, followed by photography that created the false

    impression that there was no exit defect in the back of the head.

     

    Many JFK researchers have long suspected photographic forgery, but extreme

    caution is warranted here because all analyses of the autopsy photographs

    done to date have used "bootleg" materials, and not the original materials

    in the Archives. The "bootleg" photographs do represent the actual views

    of the body in the Archives collection, but they are badly degraded,

    suffer from contrast buildup, and are photographic prints-whereas any true

    scientific study of these images for authenticity should use the color

    positive transparencies and B & W negatives in the Archives as subjects,

    not multi-generational prints of uncertain provenance.

     

    I personally examined magnified and enhanced images of the Archives

    autopsy photographs at the Kodak lab in Rochester, New York in November of

    1997, and I saw no obvious evidence of photographic forgery; but I am the

    first person to admit that I am not an expert in photographic special

    effects techniques circa 1963.

     

    I am of the opinion that it is likely that the back of the head appears

    intact in the autopsy photographs either because the loose scalp was

    manipulated for photographic purposes, or because the photos in question

    were taken after a partial reconstruction by the morticians. I was steered

    toward this opinion by the ARRB testimony of the two FBI agents who

    witnessed the autopsy. Both men found the images of the intact

    back-of-the-head troubling, and inconsistent with the posterior head wound

    they vividly remembered. Frank O'Neill opined under oath that the images

    of the back-of-the-head appeared "doctored," by which he meant that the

    head had been put back together by the doctors. James Sibert testified

    that the head looked "reconstructed" in these images-he actually used the

    word "reconstructed" at his deposition.

     

    No final conclusions can yet be drawn about exactly why a large defect in

    the rear of the head is not shown in the autopsy photographs, when one was

    seen by so many witnesses. It is sufficient to say that something is

    terribly wrong here, and that it is an area that requires more study with

    the original materials.

     

    Thank you for your attention.

     

    Doug Horne

  8. Is it really all that important now a days what an album is called? Many people will be downloading it from amazon or wherever and never actually hold the album in their hands, except most of us who post here probably. Outside of having a name to allow it being identified in sales charts and being nominated for a Grammy, the whole concept of albums is changing from the decline of the CD to the decline of record stores. They could call it Wilco's next release for all I care. We'll probably refer to it as the "camel album" if that camel is on the cover that they photographed last week in Milwaukee. I still like the concept of the White Album. Don't name it and let the audience come up with his own title.

  9. interesting topic

     

    for me, and i guess this is blasphemy, but Sgt. Pepper falls into this category

     

    i like it OK, but to hear it spoken of in hallowed and mystical tones ... picked by rolling stone as the greatest album ever ...

     

    to me, it's got two flat-out classics -- she's leaving home and a day in the life

     

    but the greatest album ever? with fixing a hole? benefit of mr. kite? within you without you? lovely rita? when i'm 64? that's a LOT of filler for the greatest album ever

     

    if i'm listening to the beatles -- which comes hard for me these days for some reason -- i would much rather listen to the white album, revolver, abby road, rubber soul or some of the super early stuff

     

    i just don't get Sgt. Pepper

     

    If you were alive and old enough to remember what listening to that album was like for the very first time, you would get it.......It was like nothing you had heard before........You have to view it in the context of what it meant at the time of its' release.......It was a milestone in the recording business one might say........But the White Album is my favorite.......

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