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Radio Cure comes to mind as one of many...

It's a day late, but it doesn't get said enough so,

Thanks a bunch!

We appreciate what you do!

Nope, not a day late, you're just in time to help announce our employee of the month!

Thanks for all your work, Solace!

Got my Iowa City ticket today, pretty excited. I haven't seen him since he came through Minneapolis right after Demolition was released, and that was a good show

Seriously though, what's with all these drunken asshat female celebrities driving around on all sorts of crap. I'll chauffeur them and put up with all their bullshit for half of what they're paying their lawyers a year. Man, I'll be rich then.

Awesome, I'm excited for this.

I'm a part of a CSA and a Co-op.

The CSA here in Grinnell is from a heritage farm (the farm has been in their family for 150+ years), which is pretty cool to begin with. The share was $300 for "2" people (I put that in quotes because there's more veggies than that). In addition to getting tons of variety in veggies we also get eggs, including duck eggs for an extra $1.50, and there's access to buying 1/2 and 1/4 animals for meat, which we didn't do because we don't have a giant freezer. The share runs from the beginning of June through October, and no week has been disappointing, and usually it's an overabundance of really good stuff--the tomatoes and fresh sweet corn this week were phenomenal!

I would highly recommend trying a CSA, though I'd research your options on local ones and ask anyone who's been in one that you're looking into, I know people have had varied experience depending on who runs it.

The Co-op is pretty sweet, lots of good organic/local foods, we get a 5% discount and if you work there for 3 hours a month they give you an additional 10%, or 6 hours 20% or 9 hours 30% (on up to $200 worth of groceries). Basically it's a rocking deal. It cost not much to join $120 maybe? Can't remember, and it's for life...not that I'm planning on living in Iowa forever, but hey.

Good luck

Always try new things, and let your own ideas rule your music!

I guess we do agree.

PS. I do know and use theory, and like you said it can give clarity sometimes or help provide structure/direction. Inevitably the musical ideas and the real drive to make music comes from someplace that is just there and develops through years of listening to and practicing music--and that's where every musician trained or not feeds from whether they know theory or not. Also, Beethoven does have some sweet tunes.

My point is essentially: theory is not given enough importance in modern music, and if it was, music would be better.

I disagree.

There are plenty of examples of phenomenal musicians/music with little or no theory consciously integrated in the musical process--but think what you want there's a whole world of music out there. I just think that concentrating too much on process or theory in music makes you miss a lot of really great art

As for the "it's the end product that counts, not how you get there", i can't disagree more. the work that led up to the final product determines the final peice, so how can it not matter?!? Theory helps expands the artists aresenal of ideas, not limits them. The bigger the arsenal, the better your music will sound.I cannot imagine how cool it would be if tweedy utilized picardy thirds, chromatic modulation, and subsituted parralel motion for contrary. Obviously i'm very pleased with what he has done without this knowledge (and who's to say he doesn't know about it), but it wouldn't hurt to explore the science behind composition.

And I couldn't disagree more. You're confusing training with talent. Music is not a secret, imparted only to those who undergo training. In that sense it is a wonderfully democratic art form, because even the most untrained songwriter can produce works of staggering beauty.Knowledge of theory can grease the rails a bit for some people, but it is not a guarantee of inspiration.

From Nels himself (via his website): "I am virtually self-taught on the guitar. All i've done is try to make sound that has an affect on me, to listen, react, and be authentic in the moment. I've never had any real direction, any career design, and i've never been very disciplined."

I would doubt that any of the other members other than Glenn are "classically" trained on their instruments.

Having studied plenty of music theory (seeing as I'm a music major) there's certainly advantages and disadvantages to knowing the technicalities of music. Honestly, great music doesn't come from those who know the rules and follow them to any degree. Most of the "great" classical music doesn't follow any sort of theory rules exactly, great jazz is always conscious of chord progression but most of the greats aren't classically trained or well versed in theory. Rock has always been about anybody being able to play the music.

Theory helps to give you a better understanding of the pieces that make up music, but without instinct and originality that translates into boring and formulaic music. I'm sure by now all the members of Wilco have a good sense of chord progressions, modulations, and other basic theory just through practice--but that's about all you need.

Big congrats to you

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I definitely dig the album.

:sorry

You're a-okay

wait a minute, you're only 21 years old!!!!!

Hey now

Thanks everyone!

Happy birthday to you late night RTT comrade, fellow VC procrastinator and now rock dad! Hope everything is going well and that you're having a blast of a birthday

Well the title pretty much sums that one up...but after dating for over 4 years now I proposed to my girlfriend last weekend, and she accepted. She was quite excited, and we just went home this weekend to tell our respective families in person. Nobody was surprised, but we're happy and no one is objecting....yet No plans yet for actually getting married, but we'll figure that out eventually.

I thought they were great at the Pitchfork Music Festival, and I hadn't really heard the record much at all.

Who can tell me EXACTLY how many and which kind of guitars he got for this tour ?

Uh...can't tell you exactly...

But I know he's playing: at least two different Jazzmasters both vintage, though I don't know anything beyond that; he's got a Jaguar; the Jerry Jones 12-string; and then his lap steel which I think is detailed in another thread here.

That's all I've seen.

So what's the BFD? If the music's good people will buy it!

I think partially it's artists/labels feeling like they have a lack of control over their product these days. If everything leaks early, is available for high-quality download illegally, and sold by second parties who didn't buy it, but instead got it as a promo then I think that could definitely be frustrating as an artist.

Also, it's pretty clear that even with "good" music there is a loss in sales to downloads, etc. It's been discussed before around here in regards to the small label Suburban Home Records, but I thought that provided pretty convincing evidence of actual monetary losses regarding downloading, etc.

That said, I think the approach to making things legally available for download (or stream) and combating sales losses by trying to make albums more appealing (ie. bonus cd's, dvd's, access to tracks/extra material, packaging vinyl with mp3's or cd's, etc.) is a decent way to try and make the product more appealing...but I think artists will definitely have to rely on touring as a main revenue source and use the internet as the promotional tool that it can be. Anybody who thinks that the internet and downloading is or will kill music/rock/etc. is off, but it certainly has drastically changed the market.

Well, they didn't seem too happy with that Vic Theater DVD, we'll see what happens, though I'm not holding out hope.

There are a couple of "live" documents of them, Burn to Shine Chicago has "Muzzle of Bees," I Am Trying To Break Your Heart has a bunch of live performances, Sunken Treasure has a bunch of Tweedy solo stuff live, and the Shake it Off DVD from Sky Blue Sky has a good chunk of those songs. I'd be excited to see a live DVD come out, especially if it had a nice wide songlist.

The Wilco Book provides pretty good insight into how A Ghost is Born was conceived. Basically most of the early sessions were places for the band just to experiment and try different live-studio configurations--there are a couple of these mixes on the CD that comes with the book in case you don't have it. Then there are more well lined out "songs" and some alternate mixes as well, which I'm assuming is about as close to "demos" as AGIB stuff gets.

I don't know of anything against this, you could always check with a moderator, but I don't think it's a big deal

Good luck selling.

This is awesome, though I wouldn't buy it for the price. Farts can be endlessly amusing.