Lammycat Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Okay.....you may be right. There certainly must be a market for people wanting to listen to dying musiicans.Hey, the Stones have been bringing 'em in pretty steady the last decade or two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Hey, the Stones have been bringing 'em in pretty steady the last decade or two. You have a point, but at least the Stones are not LITERALLY dying. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 If someone likes this they like to listen to people dying. nice work LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I don't think that is a valid argument. I loved Warren Zevon's final album precisely because he was dying and recorded an album to reflect as much. I do howver agree that there are some clunkers on the new Cash album just as there were on almost every album he made, but the good outweigh the bad in my opinion. As to the post mortem releases, there have already been scads of artists, such as Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughn whose corpses have been mined far too often for my tastes, but somewhere there is a desire for this product. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I like Warren's final CD too. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ction Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I like Warren's final CD too. LouieB Okay.....you may be right. There certainly must be a market for people wanting to listen to dying musiicans. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 isn't von freeman about 100? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I don't think that is a valid argument. I loved Warren Zevon's final album precisely because he was dying and recorded an album to reflect as much.I agree. An excellent album. If you haven't seen the documentary on the recording of The Wind, you should. Disclaimer to folks weary of dying artists: Warren Zevon is dying in it, and knows he's dying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 isn't von freeman about 100?He's 80 actually and not dying. LouieB I agree. An excellent album. If you haven't seen the documentary on the recording of The Wind, you should. Disclaimer to folks weary of dying artists: Warren Zevon is dying in it, and knows he's dying.I did see this, it was excellent too. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ction Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 We're all dying, Louie. Dying since the day we were born... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjpuczko Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 he not busy being bornis busy dying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Louie is afraid of Grim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 We're all dying, Louie. Dying since the day we were born... Actually we don't really start to die until approx. 18 yrs of age, on a cellular level at least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I take it all back.....frankly while this sounds like a pretty depressing release (and continues to have a whiff of taking advantage of Johnny), I am still interested in hearing it. I have heard some of it on the radio, but wouldn't mind hearing it. Somehow I suspect it will show up used any moment, since it is bound to freak a few unsuspecting buyers. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 i hadn't realized you hadn't heard it. oy. PM on the way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 i hadn't realized you hadn't heard it. oy. PM on the wayDownloading now. I actually have heard some of it on Sound Opinions and some other shows that have been reviewing it. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I, eh, how do I put this....haven't heard it yet either. I wonder what it sounds like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Wow, that was depressing...!!! I had heard some of those cuts, but not all of them. The combined effect is stunning and not entirely in a good way. First off, I have to give Rubin credit for plugging in some really great accompanyment; good work on making it sound restrained and tasteful. Thank goodness this is Johnny Cash, I mean even with the ruined voice and being on his last leg he still more or less pulled it off. Some of the songs are okay, some are old chestnuts (Four Strong Winds, If you could read my Mind, Love's Been Good to me, etc.), some are sentimental and some are just plain depressing. I can't imagine what is left to release after this. I still think this is somewhat macabre and it is just barely Johnny, who was one of the great singers of the 20th century. I sure hope this isn't the way most people remember the guy though. RIP Johnny.....wow..... LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I have no doubt that opver the years various discs will be released and at soem point it will appear to be picking at the financial corpse of Johnny until then though... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I have no doubt that opver the years various discs will be released and at soem point it will appear to be picking at the financial corpse of Johnny until then though...Okay I am willing to concede (half anyway) that maybe this isn't the point, but it is getting damn close. Another release exactly like this one will be even closer to vulture territory. Johnny cast a long shadow and has a large body (of work) so figure on the corpse being picked for many many years to come. I think Rick Rubin should give these albums away.... LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Just imagine what would happen if Neil Young passed away? He has more stuff on tape than I can even imagine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I think Rick Rubin should give these albums away.... LouieB Why should he do that? It's not like all the profits are going into his pocket. There's still a Cash (and Carter) family and estate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I was half kidding. So sell them for half price. They should have given away coupons with UnEarthed because lots of us got this thinking it was the LAST recordings of Johnny Cash. How wrong we were. Oh and as far the the Cashes and Carters...if the proceeds were given directly to the Carter Family Fold or the Birthplace of Country Music Association, I would buy two of these CDs. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I was half kidding. So sell them for half price. They should have given away coupons with UnEarthed because lots of us got this thinking it was the LAST recordings of Johnny Cash. How wrong we were. Oh and as far the the Cashes and Carters...if the proceeds were given directly to the Carter Family Fold or the Birthplace of Country Music Association, I would buy two of these CDs. LouieB You are free to donate as much money as you'd like to the Carters or the BCMA, no cd purchase required.I don't know anything about Unearthed, but word to the wise: never trust marketing slogans. I don't think there is anything at all wrong with releasing these recordings. On the contrary, I think the emotions expressed through the singing of a man about to die is about as fascinating as music can get, particularly when the singer is arguably the greatest of all time at expressing emotions through song. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 You are free to donate as much money as you'd like to the Carters or the BCMA, no cd purchase required.I don't know anything about Unearthed, but word to the wise: never trust marketing slogans. I don't think there is anything at all wrong with releasing these recordings. On the contrary, I think the emotions expressed through the singing of a man about to die is about as fascinating as music can get, particularly when the singer is arguably the greatest of all time at expressing emotions through song.I am a member of the BMCA so I took care of that. Never trust marketers..yea..good idea too. I don't think there is anything wrong with these recordings either, except I don't care to listen to music by people who are about to die every day of the week. (That includes Warren Zevon.) Just a personal thing. Johnny did some spectacular recordings in his life, I would personally like to remember him that way. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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