awatt Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 So we spent the week at the beach at Charleston with family and now my two boys, 7 and 9, have been influenced by their cousins, 13 and 15. They are listening to Brand New, Rammstein, the new Chilli Peppers, Bright Eyes...I'm so out of it!! I'd prefer my kids stay AWATT, but it's clear I've lost them.... What do you think of Brand New? A cross between Blink 182 and I don't know what. I was concerned about them listening to Golden Smog's He's A Dick, but to tell you the truth, I like that much better than some of this new angst-ridden, sex-fueled, overly-sentimentalized crap. Oh wait, I guess that's always been rock n roll. I'm trying to keep an open mind here but what a rude awakening to music today! I need a drink. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 I think we gotta remember that historically the rock-n-roll that young people listen to is supposed to piss the parents off That's priority #1. I've given up completely trying to understand some of the "crap" my kids (15,18,20) listen to....just like my folks when I started blasting out the Zep,Hendrix,Floyd,etc,all the way back in the seventies. Scott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TCP Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 (edited) They'll grow out if it. I changed musical tastes 4 or 5 times before I settled onto the kinds of music I listen to now.Plus I can think of bands much worse then Bright Eyes to be listening to. Slipknot, Nickelback, and Anti-Flag come to mind. Edited August 13, 2006 by Halcyon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 My dad got me into Wilco with Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, had radiohead CDs before I did, and keeps pestering me to listen to Mars Volta. And we both have always had an undying love of the Beatles. So, I never got to rebel against my parents musically Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 My dad got me into Wilco with Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, had radiohead CDs before I did, and keeps pestering me to listen to Mars Volta. And we both have always had an undying love of the Beatles. So, I never got to rebel against my parents musically You can rebel by listening to Nickelback. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 You can rebel by listening to Nickelback. We were at lollapalooza together and afterwards he said he didn't think the Flaming Lips were musically that good live, more just like a circus. So i can rebel by liking them! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 That's probably more satisfying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scalzunfield Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 We were at lollapalooza together and afterwards he said he didn't think the Flaming Lips were musically that good live, more just like a circus. So i can rebel by liking them! Musically, they're an incredible studio band that leaves a lot to be desired *musically* in their live set. Your father was right on in his assessment of their live set: it's more like an act than a concert. Also, I'm 22 and in the same boat with my father. He introduced me to Son Volt after Trace came out (initially hated it), but we discovered UT and Wilco (initially hated Summerteeth) together and have attended upwards of 6 Wilco shows together. It's not a bad thing considering he's purchased nearly all of those tickets... Other bands/acts we've seen live together: The Jayhawks, Son Volt, Fastball, Richard Thompson, Mellencamp, Fogerty, and Jackson Browne. I don't have a problem rebelling when I get a buncha tickets to shows I wouldn't mind checking out. I still can't get him listening to Clap Your Hands, Arcade Fire, New Pornographers (I'm trying really hard too), or Destroyer though. Oh well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 I'm all in favor of freedom of expression, but that "emo" shit has really got to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Musically, they're an incredible studio band that leaves a lot to be desired *musically* in their live set. Your father was right on in his assessment of their live set: it's more like an act than a concert. the first time i saw them, that is exactly how i explained my feelings on their set, but at that time I really only knew their hits, so I could only sing along with Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots. But, now that i own virtually their whole catalogue, their shows have been different for me. Granted, it might just be that Wayne walked on me in his bubble and passed on a feeling of complete happiness, but thats a different story. I think the band caters to the big fans in their audience, in that alot of the time they leave gaps in the songs for the audience to fill in, and you can only really enjoy that if you know the songs really well. My Brother and Brother in Law were at Lollapalooza and both said "I liked the last two songs, didn't really get into anything else." The last 2 songs were "She Don't Use Jelly" and "Do You Realize", the only two songs they knew that the Flaming Lips played. Coincidence? I think not. So, In conclusion, I think the Lips are amazing (musically and theatrically) live if you know their stuff, and just sort of a big show that doesn't focus on the music, if you aren't into them THAT much. But thats just me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brianjeremy Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 I'm all in favor of freedom of expression, but that "emo" shit has really got to go. C'mon now, all that "emo" shit isn't bad. I listened to that "shit" and I turned out alright. At least the kid is listening to Bright Eyes and not some crap emo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scalzunfield Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 At least the kid is listening to Bright Eyes and not some crap emo. That's a coin flip as far as I'm concerned. Conor's voice has driven me into a wrist-slitting frenzy before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kalle Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I dunno I figure Brand New is the safest of the "emo" bands. They are alot more arty and do more with music than all the others. Rammstein is shit though... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I'm not even sure what emo is anymore. It used to be Rites of Spring (and any kids getting into Rites of Spring right now should be commended). Somehow it later evolved into Weezer type stuff, which can be hit or miss...and then I don't know how it came to mean what it means now. Most of the stuff that's called emo now sounds like whiny guitar-pop to me. Not even close to what the term used to mean. Anyway, I'm not that old now (24) but getting old enough now to not at all relate to a lot of the stuff that kids listen to now. As far as complete garbage goes, it could get worse than Bright Eyes, but I still hate that stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 The ironic thing is that I think the world's first emo band - H Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jahilia Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 They are listening to... Rammstein... Get them some Einstuerzende Neubauten albums! Seriously. Halber Mensch is a good one, Tabula Rasa is a puzzle, Ende Neu is fun. And that will lead them to Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds--> The Pogues ( Or Leonard Cohen) --> Steve Earle (or John Cale) --> Elvis Costello (or the Velvet Underground or the Modern Lovers or the Stooges or Patti Smith)...I HATED the music my parents listened to (haha ABBA & Skynard), but I somehow forged a path all the way to Wilco. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 That's a coin flip as far as I'm concerned. Conor's voice has driven me into a wrist-slitting frenzy before.I was thinking the same thing...... No one should worry about what your kids listen to, unless they think they are being directed by the devil in the music telling them to kill someone. Let it go, they may end up as Dylan fanatics anyway. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I'm not even sure what emo is anymore. It used to be Rites of Spring (and any kids getting into Rites of Spring right now should be commended).I agree with that! I heard that 25 years ago as a teen w/ a headfull of mescaline & it was definitely life-changing (and affirming ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 The ironic thing is that I think the world's first emo band - H Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kimalmostpossible Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Husker Du the first emo band? How about Joy Division? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Husker Du the first emo band? How about Joy Division?I would put them more firmly in post punk. Not quite enough screaming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brianjeremy Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Isn't all music "emo" to a certain extent? People also credit Lou Barlow for being the father of emo as well. In the end it's one of those who the fuck cares scenerios. I mean, if you don't dig it musically - cool. I think more people are turned off by the public image of emo or the bands' looks. Musically, it great music for "girls suck" and all that love shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I'm turned off by the excessive screaming, backed by usually uninteresting music. Are all kids today really that unhappy? I thought the increased use of psychotropic drugs would make all music made by young people sound like Apples in Stereo, but I reckon not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 any kids getting into Rites of Spring right now should be commendedTrue, any kids who listen to Igor Stravinsky should be commended....then they might get into Bartok, Stockhausen, Cage, Feldman, etc. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
owl Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I don't know that a desire to keep your kid away from bad music with bad messages or today's TV is necessarily "conservative." It's not even necessarily sheltering a kid, in my view. The fact that kids learn about these things anyway isn't a reason to allow an uncontrolled flow of crap into your home, either. Stem it off where you can, if you ask me. I don't even think that I would want my kid subscribing to magazines like Rolling Stone or Glamour! I can tell you this: my subscription to (what I now realize is 99% crap) Rolling Stone made me want to do drugs, and I did, and I screwed up a good few years of my life. Any sensible person would think about disconnecting the TV cable, and likewise must realize that most rock music is pretty awful. It's also no secret that both industries have it out for the kids- whether it's TV broadcasting (sex, drugs, and violence) or music endorsing (sex, drugs, and violence) whatever sells. I'm about as liberal as they come, and I think that both TV and pop music is crap. It's not a freedom of speech issue, in my opinion. And the Internet is something else altogether. So many things to think about as a parent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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