napoleon Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 could i put nylon strings on a guitar designed for steel strings? and if i could, would it sound terrible? i just can't stand the clangy sound i get out of my guitar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a.miller Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Not likely. The design of a steel string guitar is such that a considerably higher amount of tension is put on the strings than on a typical nylon string guitar. I tried to do this once and all of the nylon strings popped as I was trying to tighten them. Conversly, if you put steel strings on a nylon string guitar you can fold the neck. Try different types of strings. I went from Elixirs to D'addario Phosphor Bronze and it gave me a much darker sound I was looking for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
napoleon Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 Not likely. The design of a steel string guitar is such that a considerably higher amount of tension is put on the strings than on a typical nylon string guitar. I tried to do this once and all of the nylon strings popped as I was trying to tighten them. Conversly, if you put steel strings on a nylon string guitar you can fold the neck. Try different types of strings. I went from Elixirs to D'addario Phosphor Bronze and it gave me a much darker sound I was looking for. thanks. what would i need if i was trying to get a nice warm sound like jeff? i've been using martin strings for quite a while and was never sure what kind to switch to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 thanks. what would i need if i was trying to get a nice warm sound like jeff? You'd need a good soundman, for one thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a.miller Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 You'd need a good soundman, for one thing.That, and the fact that most of his guitar's cost more than a lot of people's cars....I don't know what kind of instrument you are playing, but that could have a lot to do with it. If you have a $150 guitar, I don't know how possible it is to mimic the sound of a pre-war Martin or vintage Gibson. Perhaps take your guitar to your local store, have the luthier take a look at it and tell him what you're going for and what his advice on strings would be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
napoleon Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 yeah thats true. i've been thinking here lately of running down to broadway sound and getting a new bridge and nut put on and getting it cleaned up some. even though it won't do magic, it'll be the best i can do until i get the money to afford a new guitar. which will be a while. until then though, what kind of strings do you reccomend? something less steel and clanky sounding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a.miller Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 what kind of strings do you reccomend?I don't think there is one type of string for every guitar. I've played for 15 years and I couldn't say one brand or type is the best. I have a mahogany top Martin, and have had Elixir Nanoweb on there forever. I was convinced that this was the best string in the world. Then I got a Gibson J45 and it sounded like hell with the same type of strings. I switched to D'addario phosphor bronze on the Gibson, which gave it a nice "woody" sound. Still, the Martin sounds best with the Elixirs and not good with the D'addarios. So, it truly depends on your type of guitar. Maybe go to the store and see what kind of strings are on a guitar that you like and try those on your own. Five bucks for a pack of strings is worth giving it a shot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
napoleon Posted February 6, 2007 Author Share Posted February 6, 2007 thats a good idea. i never thought of that. thanks for the help bro. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anodyne Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 i like the d'addario coated strings (elixr knock-offs). the coatings seem to last longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Is there such a thing as flat-wound strings for acoustic guitars? If so, they might be worth trying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iak Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 i know for a fact that jeff uses d'addario phosphor bronze mediums (13's) on all his guitars, except the 0 and 00 martins. But then again, the J45 he uses is a very dark and warm-sounding guitar because of its body shape and the mahogany back, so it also depends not only on how expensive your guitar is, but what its shape and tonewoods are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oceanman Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Is there such a thing as flat-wound strings for acoustic guitars? If so, they might be worth trying.Thats a good question............anyone have an answer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FaintingGoat Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Thats a good question............anyone have an answer? Yes, they exist but are rare. A company called Galli produces "Galli Flatwound Bronze." Some companies produce hybrid jazz sets where just one or two strings are flatwounds. Practically speaking, I can't imagine using them in anything other than a recording setting. Typically you're going to want more "life" or "response" from an acoustic guitar which you're more likely to get from quarter-wound or round-wound strings. Even if you're amplifying the guitar, flatwounds would suck out the "punch" and other dynamics from your sound. That being said, I'm sure there are unique applications for acoustic flatwounds that would sound great in the hands of the right guitarist. But I'm guessing that guitarist would also have another acoustic with standard strings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a.miller Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Sort of related - I think John used flatwound bass strings on some of the AGIB recordings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jahilia Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Just wanted to say hey to a fellow Santa Cruzian. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socbret Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I use DR Rare (13) and really love those. Kind of pricey if I remember right but worth it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oceanman Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Sort of related - I think John used flatwound bass strings on some of the AGIB recordings.I now as a novice bass player that I prefer flat wounds,much easier on my skinny fingers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mchchef1 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 http://search.ebay.com/flatwound-guitar-st...eZWD8BQQxpufuZx First time I've posted a link, hope it works?Lots of flattwound to be had there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 for what its worth, i really enjoy getting different strings and putting them on my guitar to see the differences. like someone else mentioned above, its only $5 and its like you get a new guitar every time. I would recommend you just mess around and until you find some you really love, every time you replace strings you might want to try something new. I stumbled across LaBella silk and steel strings recently and i really enjoyed these. I dont think many people know about them. on deck, when those wear out, are some d'addario phospher bronze and martin strings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmontbriand Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 I have to use coated strings otherwise I'm putting new strings on once a week even if I'm not playing much. I hate the Elixers and use the D'addario EXPs. I can get a month out of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anodyne Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 flatwound bass strings were so common in the 70s. i had a few old basses i got at garage sales with flatwounds. they last forever, but sound, well, flat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joehock57 Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 i play a taylor 110, with martin strings on it. i'm not sure that they're what i'm looking for; are there any other taylor owners out there that can recommend some good strings? also, an off topic question, do guitar stores usually do any exchange for cash deals? i'd love to save up some money and trade my 110 in for cash/store credits to get a higher end taylor. thanks for any info! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a.miller Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 i play a taylor 110, with martin strings on it. i'm not sure that they're what i'm looking for; are there any other taylor owners out there that can recommend some good strings? also, an off topic question, do guitar stores usually do any exchange for cash deals? i'd love to save up some money and trade my 110 in for cash/store credits to get a higher end taylor. thanks for any info!I think a lot of Taylor owners use coated strings -- Elixir was the first to make them but I think most string manufacturers have their versions now. As for trade in -- DON'T DO IT. You will not get your money's worth. Period. List it on ebay or craigslist where you can at least obtain market value for your guitar. That will allow you more dough to put towards something new and you won't feel ripped off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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