MrRain422 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Castillo is past his prime, but is still solid on the defensive end. Definately an upgrade for the Mets. Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied lightning Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 this could help the Sox The Boston Red Sox and Texas Rangers have agreed in principle to a trade involving Eric Gagne, and the Red Sox are now negotiating with the former Cy Young winner to get him to accept the trade. The Rangers are set to receive prospects in the deal. Boston is not on Gagne's approved list of 12 teams he can be traded to. After missing much of the past two years with injuries, Gagne has returned to form this season with a 16 saves in 17 chances and a 2.16 ERA. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 The Rangers are set to receive prospects in the deal. Boston is not on Gagne's approved list of 12 teams he can be traded to.David Murphy (OF) is the prospect and Kason Gabbard is in the deal, too (supposedly). This is a steal for the Red Sox. http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds..._deal_movi.html Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 This is a steal for the Red Sox. And bad news for my rotisserie keeper team. Dangit!! Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 So...what would the Red Sox do with Pap if Gagne insists on being closer? I guess he'd be in the rotation? Set-up? This isn't making sense to me. Anyone? Link to post Share on other sites
PigSooie Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 A source told FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal, that the talks between the White Sox and Red Sox regarding Jermaine Dye are dead.It's believed Boston offered Wily Mo Pena and Craig Hansen. Dye seems unlikely to be dealt to another team. The White Sox could attempt to re-sign him for two or three years." http://www.rotoworld.com/content/home_MLB.aspx ESPN is reporting that Engel Beltre would be included in an Eric Gagne deal with the Rangers, giving Texas three players.Kason Gabbard and David Murphy are believed to be the other two. This makes the trade look a whole lot better for Texas. Beltre is just 17 and is even further away than Elvis Andrus and Neftali Feliz, but he was one of the top international players available in the 2006 signing period. He ended up taking a $600,000 bonus from Boston. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 So...what would the Red Sox do with Pap if Gagne insists on being closer? I guess he'd be in the rotation? Set-up? This isn't making sense to me. Anyone?No way Gagne takes the closer spot from Paps. Perhaps a co-closer spot, but he's more likely to be middle relief the majority of the time. I realize Gagne has stated he wants to close, and this may inevitably hold the deal up. But I think sharing closer duties to both appease him and give Paps a break when needed would be in the cards. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Thanks. Okay, I realize you always need pitching, but I still don't get why they're after him. Link to post Share on other sites
PigSooie Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 What will be Okajima's role? Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 No way Gagne takes the closer spot from Paps. Yes, i assumed Gagne comes for the 8th inning when I made my statement that this was bad for my rotisserie team. Gagne is an expensive set-up man for me. I agree with Lammymeow that this issue could hold up the trade from Gagne's perspective. Link to post Share on other sites
PigSooie Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 The Padres have acquired Morgan Ensberg from the Astros, ESPN's Buster Olney reports. Ensberg, Rob Mackowiak, Scott Hairston... we hope the Padres realize they're only allowed to carry 25 players at a time. Adding both Ensberg and Mackowiak seems to show how they don't have a lot of faith in Kevin Kouzmanoff. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Thanks. Okay, I realize you always need pitching, but I still don't get why they're after him.Simply put, he makes the 'pen a lot stronger for the push to/through the playoffs. He'll also be great bait for the off-season (draft picks?). I believe it's being reported that the deal is going through and has been agreed to. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 What will be Okajima's role?Same as it has been barring injury, I'd guess. Really, adding another quality arm for the last third of the season is a great move. Gagne offers relief for some arms and protection against injury from the current guys in the 'pen, as well. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Simply put, he makes the 'pen a lot stronger for the push to/through the playoffs. He'll also be great bait for the off-season (draft picks?). Only if they sign him to an extension. His contract with the Rangers was just a one year deal. This deal is a short-term rental for the Red Sox, but probably worth it. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Only if they sign him to an extension. His contract with the Rangers was just a one year deal. This deal is a short-term rental for the Red Sox, but probably worth it.Why would he need to be signed to an extension? The Red Sox can use him as bait at the end of the season regardless of his status as rental/extended contract. Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 If he's not under contract with the Red Sox, they can't trade him. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 I don't understand what you mean. He is not under contract to anyone after this season. The Red Sox have traded for him to add some depth to their bullpen for the rest of the season and the playoffs. Are you suggesting that they would trade him before the season is over? I guess they could trade him to another team that is trying to make a playoff run before the end of August (the deadline for playoff rosters is September 1st), but after August 1st, they'd have to put him on waivers first, and someone would almost certainly claim him. Also, if they only wanted him for the month of August, then this trade would be pretty pointless, don't you think? Edit: Yeah, what he said. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Forget it, I misunderstood your initial point. My b. It looks like they're trying to re-word the contract incentives lingo to "games played" from "games finished" for Gagne so as to avoid potentially having to move Papelbon to a set-up spot (which again, I can't see ). Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 WFAN in nyc is reporting that the Gagne deal is done and that he will be pitching the 8th. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 July 31, 2007Gagne: Done dealBy David Lefort, Boston.com Staff According to NESN, the Red Sox have officially acquired Eric Gagne from the Texas Rangers in exchange for pitcher Kason Gabbard, outfielder David Murphy, and minor league outfielder Engel Beltre today. Unidentified major league sources told NESN that Gagne has agreed to waive his no-trade clause to Boston and has also agreed to serve as the team's set-up man. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 An Okajima 7th, Gagne 8th, Papelbon 9th sounds pretty intimidating. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 This deal makes me happy, and not just in the pants. Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Gagne has thrown 3 playoff innings. And his ERA is 12.00 in the all-star game... Should be interesting to see him on the mound in the Bronx in September. I happen to think he'll be fine and this is a great pickup, but it's gonna be fun. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 An Okajima 7th, Gagne 8th, Papelbon 9th sounds pretty intimidating.Boy, spelled out like that. Wow. Link to post Share on other sites
jenbobblehead Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 damn. there goes my Gabbard Gabbard HEY! tee shirt idea. i guess i can't quit my day job after all. Link to post Share on other sites
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