wilcohead Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 At first I wasn't so in love..... But gosh darn it once I got to know the album I fell madly in love with it. It lifts me up when Im down, relaxes me and altogether just makes me happy. This is beginning to be a great love affair.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 This is beginning to be a great love affair.... It's alright to love Sky Blue Sky. Just don't love Sky Blue Sky. At least not in front of others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wilcohead Posted July 13, 2007 Author Share Posted July 13, 2007 I love to love it, even in public maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wilcohead Posted July 13, 2007 Author Share Posted July 13, 2007 who else feels the way I do about SBS? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mchchef1 Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Sarchi and Greg Kot.... and me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
you ever seen a ghost? Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 i love it with all my heart as well and have from the very first. i'm pretty sure it's my favorite Wilco album. -justin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
david Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 i love it with all my heart as well and have from the very first. i'm pretty sure it's my favorite Wilco album. -justin I am sure it is the Wilco album that puts me to sleep when I do not want to, which equals MOR, which equals boring, which equals find another Wilco album fast. Your favorite, go back and listen to Summerteeth and tell me why it is still your favorite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
you ever seen a ghost? Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 I am sure it is the Wilco album that puts me to sleep when I do not want to, which equals MOR, which equals boring, which equals find another Wilco album fast. Your favorite, go back and listen to Summerteeth and tell me why it is still your favorite. yes, but i don't feel that way. that's kinda the way opinions work. -justin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
david Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 yes, but i don't feel that way. that's kinda the way opinions work. -justinI can appreciate that, but don't forget to play your Hotel California and Rumours albums every now and then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Gyrrr Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 I'M WITH YOU!!!!! (marches out into the street with ghetto blaster on shoulder,fist in the air) COME ON GANG! at first I thought it was missing something the other records have(angst power?) and maybe thats true but it has something new and... i don't know. Ruling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Littlebear Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 I personally love it as much as the others since Being There. But I noticed on other boards that some people think it's weak and more mainstream, which sounds absolutely stupid to me, since Wilco never played so well. I wish people had ears finally in this world, for God sake. As someone perfectly stated around here, SBS is a "masterpiece of understatement". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oceanman Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Is there another Wiclo board?If so...........see ya. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Littlebear Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Is there another Wilco board?If so...........see ya. Don't know. I was talking of other boards, not Wilco ones. In that case, I was thinking of a general music board where two guys, who usually like Wilco, said that SBS was weak and mainstream, and a waste of time for a talent such as Nels Cline. And I can't help but think it's absolutely stupid to say that. Jesus Christ, who needs to be "demonstrative" to make fine music. It's the opposite actually! Wilco never sounded as good, they even remind me of The Band sometime on SBS, which is saying a lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
W(TF) Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Sarchi and Greg Kot.... and me And Jeff Tweedy. And Tweedy's oldest son. I don't know if it'll always be my favorite Wilco record, but for now it definitely is. Every Wilco record has been strong, but for me SBS is a record where every song is strong -- and just as important, the whole thing "works" really well as a whole. JM2C and I haven't been seriously into Wilco nearly as long as many of you guys. As for The Band - oh fuck yeah. I'm too young to have seen them perform as a group (with Danko and Manuel), but I've seen enough hours of them on film, and this iteration of Wilco reminds me A LOT of The Band at its' prime, at least in some ways. And that is a helluva compliment. Six excellent musicians who respect each other enough to step back, and know exactly when to step it up. Seeing them live you just get the feeling they're having a blast playing together. But. . . . . . The Band was not just a collection of great musicians, but of great singers and songwriters. (though Robbie and obviously Garth weren't really good singers, but Levon, Rick and Richard were amazing). This is where Wilco doesn't quite hit all the check boxes, if you're making that comparison. This band's records are fairly Tweedy-centric; I do believe Jeff's assertion that all the members contribute ideas -- but as far as singing, there isn't a whole lot of contribution happening. It works great as is but maybe they aren't quite The Band, in that sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stooka Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 I can appreciate that, but don't forget to play your Hotel California and Rumours albums every now and then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Littlebear Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 And Jeff Tweedy. And Tweedy's oldest son. I don't know if it'll always be my favorite Wilco record, but for now it definitely is. Every Wilco record has been strong, but for me SBS is a record where every song is strong -- and just as important, the whole thing "works" really well as a whole. JM2C and I haven't been seriously into Wilco nearly as long as many of you guys. As for The Band - oh fuck yeah. I'm too young to have seen them perform as a group (with Danko and Manuel), but I've seen enough hours of them on film, and this iteration of Wilco reminds me A LOT of The Band at its' prime, at least in some ways. And that is a helluva compliment. Six excellent musicians who respect each other enough to step back, and know exactly when to step it up. Seeing them live you just get the feeling they're having a blast playing together. But. . . . . . The Band was not just a collection of great musicians, but of great singers and songwriters. (though Robbie and obviously Garth weren't really good singers, but Levon, Rick and Richard were amazing). This is where Wilco doesn't quite hit all the check boxes, if you're making that comparison. This band's records are fairly Tweedy-centric; I do believe Jeff's assertion that all the members contribute ideas -- but as far as singing, there isn't a whole lot of contribution happening. It works great as is but maybe they aren't quite The Band, in that sense. I pretty agree with everything you say, but you forget some Wilco points The Band didn't have: original melodies. The Band were more in the classic roots for the most part, when Tweedy and the band have a more melodic approach (close to the Beatles or the Velvet Underground, or Big Star or the Soft Machine), and more experimental tones that take part of the Beauty they create. I think the sense of greatness you give to the Band is tied to the "timeless classics" they wrote, whereas it's not the first target of Wilco, who are closer to psychedelia. Tweedy is more personal lyrically, I don't get the feeling at all that he tries to be universal. The similarity with The Band is essentially in the way Wilco sound together instrumentally, as you perfectly described it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
W(TF) Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 I pretty agree with everything you say, but you forget some Wilco points The Band didn't have: original melodies. The Band were more in the classic roots for the most part, when Tweedy and the band have a more melodic approach (close to the Beatles or the Velvet Underground, or Big Star or the Soft Machine), and more experimental tones that take part of the Beauty they create. I think the sense of greatness you give to the Band is tied to the "timeless classics" they wrote, whereas it's not the first target of Wilco, who are closer to psychedelia. Tweedy is more personal lyrically, I don't get the feeling at all that he tries to be universal. The similarity with The Band is essentially in the way Wilco sound together instrumentally, as you perfectly described it. 100% agree. I like to tell people Wilco is "The Band on steroids", coz I believe they've actually surpassed The Band on many levels. Maybe where they are also similar is in how influential they both became - without that being the goal of the thing. Also, I think Jeff has acknowledged that Wilco in recent years has actually tried to follow The Band's model of recording; working closely together in a private space over an extended period. I know The Band ran their own tape decks a lot of the time, I'm not sure if anything Wilco has released was "self-recorded" like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 I pretty agree with everything you say, but you forget some Wilco points The Band didn't have: original melodies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wilcohead Posted July 14, 2007 Author Share Posted July 14, 2007 I would have to say that summerteeth is my favorite Wilco album though........................... But, Sky Blue Sky is wonderful. it took probably 15 listens before I completely saw the light Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I can appreciate that, but don't forget to play your Hotel California and Rumours albums every now and then. Is it lonely up on your pedestal? Gosh, it must be so much fun going through life hating good music. Go back to Summerteeth and tell me what about "My Darling", "We're Just Friends" or "When You Wake Up Feeling Old" isn't "MOR", which doesn't even really mean anything. It's a BS term that elitists like to toss around "MOR" is defined by Wikipedia as "Music classed as MOR is broadly popular in outlook, but not cutting edge; it is generally strongly melodic and frequently uses vocal harmony techniques". That doesn't sound like Summerteeth at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
W(TF) Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I agree...everyone's entitled to not like it, but it's a bit ignorant to come on a Wilco forum and condescend on people like that. "Go play your Eagles too" isn't a valid criticism, imho. SBS deserves a bit more thought, even if you don't happen to like it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stooka Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I agree...everyone's entitled to not like it, but it's a bit ignorant to come on a Wilco forum and condescend on people like that. "Go play your Eagles too" isn't a valid criticism, imho. SBS deserves a bit more thought, even if you don't happen to like it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
you ever seen a ghost? Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 >I agree...everyone's entitled to not like it, but it's a bit ignorant to come on a Wilco forum and condescend on people like that. "Go play your Eagles >too" isn't a valid criticism, imho. SBS deserves a bit more thought, even if you don't happen to like it. it's simple enough. those that don't like SBS simply don't know anything about music. -justin ps: does anybody find the "jerkit" smiley to be vaguely disturbing on a coupla different levels? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
david Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 >I agree...everyone's entitled to not like it, but it's a bit ignorant to come on a Wilco forum and condescend on people like that. "Go play your Eagles >too" isn't a valid criticism, imho. SBS deserves a bit more thought, even if you don't happen to like it. it's simple enough. those that don't like SBS simply don't know anything about music. -justin ps: does anybody find the "jerkit" smiley to be vaguely disturbing on a coupla different levels? No people who do not like SBS expect more out of the band that is so talented than releasing a MOR snoozer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adjason Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 I like the record ok but there are some songs on it that make me cringe. There is nothing as lyrically brilliant as many past songs that Jeff has written on this record. I hope I'm wrong, but I think Jeff (like just about everybody else in rock and roll) is past his prime. Theres nothing wrong with this and I really hope I'm wrong but this happens to everyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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