Big Perm Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Watching Barfly, amazing how there's nothing left for actors to really grind their teeth on. I could count on one hand the directors working that are even interesting. Been on a Mickey Rourke kick the past week, kind of underground king of the 80's. Heaven's Gate, Body Heat, Diner, Rumble Fish, Pope of Greenwich Village, Year of the Dragon, Barfly, Angel Heart, just some highlights form the 80's. Everythig is cast from the same mold today, I don't think there's many actors I even look forward too anymore. Cinema had its balls cut-off, true story. I think the only movies over the past year give or take, that i found even worth a poot. Half nelson, Little Children, Inland Empire, and some others. Whatever. You know the thing about the business today, no one knows what they want, what they're doing or how the industry works. Sorry just worked up, I know there's more to it than my generalization, but man it feels empty. ND: Brother David's Triple, Anderson Valley Brewing Co. Looking forward to There will be blood, and No Country for old men. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 is barfly finally available on dvd? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
W(TF) Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Couldn't agree with you less. Indie films only really started to take off in the 90's. You need to get out more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Couldn't agree with you less. Indie films only really started to take off in the 90's. You need to get out more. He makes movies, dude. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yermom Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Isn't Barfly generally regarded as kind of a joke...a big let-down to Bukowski and his fans to have Mickey trying his "chops" at the role? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GtrPlyr Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 I don't think it's dead, though it is quite dismal at times. There's still good films coming out of Europe and Asia, and even a few North American ones on occasion. It's just harder to find the good films these days as a lot of them aren't well distributed, or they end up playing the festival circuit before disappearing prematurely. Thankfully the DVD boom has rescued many films from obscurity. is barfly finally available on dvd?I have it on DVD, I believe it was put out by Warner Bros. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TCP Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 What?! Haven't you seen Transformers?!?!?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
napoleon Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 I don't think it's dead, though it is quite dismal at times. There's still good films coming out of Europe and Asia, and even a few North American ones on occasion. It's just harder to find the good films these days as a lot of them aren't well distributed, or they end up playing the festival circuit before disappearing prematurely. Thankfully the DVD boom has rescued many films from obscurity. i completely agree. call me ignorant, but i don't think there's ever been a complete golden age of film. each era has had it's flaws. and clearly, this era is having major flaws. but there have still been quite a few gems to leak out. i will admit though, nothing will ever compare to the classic period of film noir. that era was flawless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big Perm Posted July 21, 2007 Author Share Posted July 21, 2007 Couldn't agree with you less. Indie films only really started to take off in the 90's. You need to get out more.YAY! This has shit to do with indie films. see 1970's bro. Golden age of cinema? hardly. Last great year was prolly 1999. Whether Barfly is joke or not, I don't know, still interesing, something to see. Entetainment has it's place, music manages to hold onto it's spirit, nothing pinning it ot the mat. In music there's corproate and the rest, it all exisits. Film, they way the business has evolved, very few leak through. Any fans of Apu trilogy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Isn't Barfly generally regarded as kind of a joke...a big let-down to Bukowski and his fans to have Mickey trying his "chops" at the role?Bukowski collaborated on/wrote the screenplay for the movie and was generally pleased with it. I think O'Rourke did an excellent job in the role. Not emoted and a fine balance between brilliance and outcast. True to form.One of my favorite flicks . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hippycat Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 There's been a few good movies so far this year: Hot Fuzz, Sicko, and Ratatouille. Also it looks like No Country For Old Men will be another. Probably The Golden Compass too - damn that was a great series. And hell I bet I'll laugh my ass off watching the Simpsons Movie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 I have it on DVD, I believe it was put out by Warner Bros. yeah, but it's been out of print for a few years, and I never got it when it first came out. there're used copies on sale for $60. so, I'll just wait til they re-release it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yermom Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Bukowski collaborated on/wrote the screenplay for the movie and was generally pleased with it. I think O'Rourke did an excellent job in the role. Not emoted and a fine balance between brilliance and outcast. True to form.One of my favorite flicks .I think Bukowski was a little displeased with O'Rourke. I haven't read Hollywood, Buk's take on the whole movie-making experience, but I do recall some interviews or anecdotal stuff that gave me the impression that he felt Mickey was a bit too much pf a pretty boy lost in his own manufactured image of toughness. For the record, I like Mickey Rourke and I can't remember if I've seen Barfly or not.It's available for download on Karagarga so maybe I'll check it out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Yeah, the Buke did not have good things to say about it in Live Through This, but he didn't have a whole bunch of good things to say about anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Any fans of Apu trilogy?Yes. Watching all three back-to-back ranks as one of the greatest film-watching experiences of my life. I don't believe there are fewer great movies being made today than in any earlier era. The dynamics of production and distribution are certainly very different than they were, say, in the Forties or in the Seventies, but what's changed the most is where great movies are coming from, and how they challenge conventional notions of what a "great" movie looks like. While traditional narrative has (as you pointed out) lost a little steam (at least in America), the masterworks being made today, especially in places like Asia, the Middle East, and Eastern Europe, often bear little resemblance to traditional film techniques. But I would argue that Apichatpong Weerasethakul is every bit the innovator that, say, Orson Welles was. And I believe I could construct a list of masterpieces made in the last decade that would rival, in terms of artistic glory, a similar list from any other decade. The largest difference might be that earlier lists would include many more household names--which says nothing about the state of current cinema, but speaks volumes about how serious film art is, more than ever before, systematically marginalized by the current MSM. An interesting read is Jonathan Rosenbaum's book Movie Wars: How Hollywood and the Media Conspire to Limit What Films We Can See. The first chapter is entitled, "Is the Cinema Really Dead?" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big Perm Posted July 22, 2007 Author Share Posted July 22, 2007 I should read that. I was mainly ranting on the US side of things, business and films. I think you're right, the greats of the olden days are what stand the test of time, and if I weren't alive during the 40's lets say, then I only know about the great films. Same goes for today, maybe my kids will say wow 07' was an amazing year for movies. This was all a spur fo the moment vent, seeing the businnes from the inside, how many hands everything goes through, blah blah blah. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big Perm Posted July 22, 2007 Author Share Posted July 22, 2007 and i would like to hear your list of masterpieces of the past ten years and we shall compare notes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
napoleon Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 and i would like to hear your list of masterpieces of the past ten years and we shall compare notes park chan-wook's vengeance trilogy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GtrPlyr Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 and i would like to hear your list of masterpieces of the past ten years and we shall compare notesNot that this was directed at me but I thought I'd chime in with a few. I'm sure I'm forgetting a whole bunch but anyway... FargoYou Can Count On MeRequiem For a DreamTaste of CherryAll About My MotherAmerican BeautyRun Lola RunRushmoreCach Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yermom Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 Not that this was directed at me but I thought I'd chime in with a few. I'm sure I'm forgetting a whole bunch but anyway... FargoYou Can Count On MeRequiem For a DreamTaste of CherryAll About My MotherAmerican BeautyRun Lola RunRushmoreCach Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 and i would like to hear your list of masterpieces of the past ten years and we shall compare notesGoodness, where to begin? To keep it short, I Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oatmealblizzard Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 Very nice post. My queue just lengthened by, oh, 10 films or so. Requiem is now in my next 5. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big Perm Posted July 22, 2007 Author Share Posted July 22, 2007 Goodness, where to begin? To keep it short, I Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 Any thoughts on the Sweet Hereafter, or Unforgiven. Two off the top of my head that rank high on my personal list of recent years past.I love both of 'em. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stooka Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Mulholland Drive is a favorite of mine! Might I also add, AdaptationThe Royal TenenbaumsDonnie DarkoPan's Labrynth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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