Mr. Kinsley Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 i would set up a five-night residency in [shakira's] ass...while Charo watched. i looked at that gif for about 45 seconds and it almost compelled me to rob a 7-11 and send the $ to her. if her posterior ran for the presidency w/ beyonce's as the running mate...even on the republican ticket...i'd vote for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 well, I do love myself on occasion, but I was speaking about teh wife lol - now, just sort of leave this page open, all nonchalantly like, and call the wife over to take a look at something, something in your eye or something or other, and then, when she asks why you posted a picture of her on the internet, tell her, especially in the context of this discussion, hotness, then, just sit back and watch the giant smile spread across her face....right before you get lucky. She is lovely, you're a lucky guy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. (hristine Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 As a sort of side note: I can Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Kinsley Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Why exactly does this subject affect my life?I'm guessing it's the whole body-image issue. Unattainable and idealized archetypes of beauty meant to keep the women folk down by causing them anguish over not looking that way and eating disorders trying to get that way. The pendulum will swing its big ass around one day and JLH will once again rule the known universe. And people will complain that the media is causing binge eating in teenage girls who are trying to look Rubenesque. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yermom Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Why exactly does this subject affect my life?Jessica Simpson and the like being shoved in our woman-faces all the time is supposed to make us feel bad. It works on some women but such methods of oppression are powerless against extra awesome, hot as all get out, chicks like you and me and all of the other VC hotties. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. (hristine Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Jessica Simpson and the like being shoved in our woman-faces all the time is supposed to make us feel bad. It works on some women but such methods of oppression are powerless against extra awesome, hot as all get out, chicks like you and me and all of the other VC hotties. Well see, I've got nothing against little missy either. I have been living in my non Jessica skin for a long time. It's not kept me from having amazing sex, deeply satisfying relationships or wonderful children. I just don't get the problem. And you, miss Loretty, are an especially hot VC chick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Kinsley Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Would it also be fair to say that one of the main culprits in oppressing women about how they look (especially among teens) are other women? Isn't there a serious amount of looking down one's nose at another girl's dress size? Not to say that dudes on Madison Ave. aren't doing their fair share, but it isn't just a guy thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the carlos Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Mchris, you are missing treehugger guys point. You are supposed to have stereotypically low self-esteem. Same goes for the rest of you women. The men too. All of you. C'mon people. You are weak. All of you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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yermom Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Would it also be fair to say that one of the main culprits in oppressing women about how they look (especially among teens) are other women? Isn't there a serious amount of looking down one's nose at another girl's dress size? Not to say that dudes on Madison Ave. aren't doing their fair share, but it isn't just a guy thing.I think thats part of the problem. There's this myth being perpetuated that implies that women are all nasty bitches who just hate each other and walk around loathing themselves or harboring jealousy of one another. In my experience at least, women aren't like that in the real world. Mature, well-adjusted women love themselves and all of their "sisters" as well, regardless of dress size. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Kinsley Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Mchris, you are missing treehugger guys point. You are supposed to have stereotypically low self-esteem. Same goes for the rest of you women. The men too. All of you. C'mon people. You are weak. All of you.Can I send you a copy of Dianetics? You'll feel much better about yourself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Kinsley Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Mature, well-adjusted women love themselves and all of their "sisters" as well, regardless of dress size.I hate to say it, but I really don't think all of you are mature and well-adjusted. Especially in high school. You and M Chris and company around here are, but... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I just "adjusted" myself Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yermom Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 High school doesn't count....they certainly aren't (nor was I) mature in high school. Insecurity and in-fighting definitely goes down there but there aren't really a lot of high school chicks on VC, are there? I think we're mostly in our twenties and up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Would it also be fair to say that one of the main culprits in oppressing women about how they look (especially among teens) are other women? Isn't there a serious amount of looking down one's nose at another girl's dress size? Not to say that dudes on Madison Ave. aren't doing their fair share, but it isn't just a guy thing. I hate to say it, but I really don't think all of you are mature and well-adjusted. Especially in high school. You and M Chris and company around here are, but...But is that really a symptom of mass media throwing this unattainable standard in people's faces, or is it just the way it is? I mean, people looked down at other people for a whole slew of reasons long before the advent of TV and the Madison Avenue advertising machine. Seems to me, it's more a matter of there being more of a forum for people who want to perpetuate the idea that there's a problem than of there actually being a real issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 But is that really a symptom of mass media throwing this unattainable standard in people's faces, or is it just the way it is? I mean, people looked down at other people for a whole slew of reasons long before the advent of TV and the Madison Avenue advertising machine. Seems to me, it's more a matter of there being more of a forum for people who want to perpetuate the idea that there's a problem than of there actually being a real issue. I don't see how any of this is going to lead to me seeing more boobs just sayin' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yermom Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I think the most aggravating thing for me about this whole mess of stuff is that there are people profiting off of others' insecurities. Praying on weakness is not cool, ever, and that's just what happens when men are sold hair plugs and diet pills are pushed on women. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Kinsley Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 High school doesn't count....they certainly aren't (nor was I) mature in high school. Insecurity and in-fighting definitely goes down there but there aren't really a lot of high school chicks on VC, are there? I think we're mostly in our twenties and up?Point taken, but isn't that where most negative body issues really start to take root? Not saying that as a statement of fact, but more of a question from someone who is interested in this since in a few years I'll be dealing with a HS-aged daughter. And yes, most of us here on VC are mature and well-adjusted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jenbobblehead Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 this thread makes me feel fat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yermom Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Point taken, but isn't that where most negative body issues really start to take root? Not saying that as a statement of fact, but more of a question from someone who is interested in this since in a few years I'll be dealing with a HS-aged daughter. And yes, most of us here on VC are mature and well-adjusted. I think the body issues are probably unavoidable to a degree with young women but it doesn't have to be extreme if she's got good parents (or other caring adults) in her life who fight against all the negative Mtv bullsh*t and ensure she knows that being an awesome chick has nothing to do with her bra size or how shiny her hair is. What's really awful is that the relatively recent wave of advertising directed to younger and younger kids ("tweens," the hot new market) is causing some serious issues with eating disorders, depression etc. in girls who shouldn't be thinking about sex at all much less stressing about how "doable " they are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and attractive or not Ms SImpson is not worth 10 pages of comments. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the carlos Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 awesome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. (hristine Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Adolescent insecurity goes with the territory. As parents, you just can't shield your kids from everything, NOR SHOULD YOU. There is a bit of social hardening off that must occur during those years that creates an exoskeleton against unwanted input and harm. Adolescence needs to make a kid strong before venturing out into the larger world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 attitude and confidence can be damn sexy as well (and boobs, big or small) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yermom Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Boobs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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