Good Old Neon Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 As the sun sets on what could only be described as the darkest of US presidencies, and we look forward to the future with new found hope (whether that feeling of hope is well founded is certainly open to debate, and will undoubtedly be put to the test), I think it is imperative that we not forget the myriad crimes against humanity perpetrated by the outgoing administration Quote Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 but never before has it been practiced (by this country) with such naked disregard and disdain of and for international law.I'm not sure about that... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 It has been my belief that the images from Abu Grahib has done more to undermine our stature in the world than any other singular event. Thanks for the link man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 It has been my belief that the images from Abu Grahib has done more to undermine our stature in the world than any other singular event. Thanks for the link man. The images themselves? Or what the images represented? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 The images themselves? Or what the images represented?The camera work was horrendous Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 It has been my belief that the images from Abu Grahib has done more to undermine our stature in the world than any other singular event. Thanks for the link man. All that stuff about the bush administrations use of torture over the last few years is insane, its not like New Zeland was toruting people.C'mon its the U.S a-bomb A STOP DENYING YOUR HISTORY AND CURRENT POSITION STOP DENYING THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.when your military kills like a million iraqis that never attacked you, inocent people, it is insane to cry foul when they use tortue of course they use torute du'h.They dont give a fuck they are bad people. I understand though , really I do. Its about image, its like when you bomb a country and then send aid. Or collect billions in debt and give millions in aid.I get it when things like this get out it makes your smilling fascist goverment look bad and liberal university students feel bad. OH MAN! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Bill Clinton dropped bombs on Iraq all threw the 90s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 All that stuff about the bush administrations use of torture over the last few years is insane, its not like New Zeland was toruting people.C'mon its the U.S a-bomb A STOP DENYING YOUR HISTORY AND CURRENT POSITION STOP DENYING THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.when your military kills like a million iraqis that never attacked you, inocent people, it is insane to cry foul when they use tortue of course they use torute du'h.They dont give a fuck they are bad people. I understand though , really I do. Its about image, its like when you bomb a country and then send aid. Or collect billions in debt and give millions in aid.I get it when things like this get out it makes your smilling fascist goverment look bad and liberal university students feel bad. OH MAN! Bill Clinton dropped bombs on Iraq all threw the 90s holy shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 The images themselves? Or what the images represented?Both. The images themselves are disturbing enough, but what do they represent to the Muslim community? I can only imagine them to be a verification of the U.S. as Satan incarnate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hixter Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 The images themselves are disturbing enough, but what do they represent to the Muslim community? I can only imagine them to be a verification of the U.S. as Satan incarnate. And all those beheading videos were strokes of PR genius? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 http://torturingdemocracy.org/Disgusting and deeply disturbing...but something all Americans should watch. If the Americans are doing it and they're not accountable, then who's going to come to your rescue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky speaks Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 This sound familiar?........Obama means change? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGf9kGhzg_o...feature=related Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 This sound familiar?........Obama means change? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGf9kGhzg_o...feature=related This video has some great info on the CFR , its funny just simple information on the CFR will change anyones worldview .It dose go deep though if ya feel like doin allot of readings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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