Duck-Billed Catechist Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Told by two other advisers he has to "suck it up" for two years, the FBI says it heard Blagojevich complain he has to give this "motherf***er [the president-elect] his senator. F*** him. For nothing? F*** him." The governor is heard saying he will pick another candidate "before I just give f***ing [senate Candidate l] a f***ing Senate seat and I don't get anything." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 Did any of these articles state whether or not he still has the power to declare Barack's successor? Depending on how not classy he is, he can still use his governor powers, right? Maybe he'll tell the judge that he'll appoint him senator if the judge lets him go. I think he still has all the privledges and powers of the office as long as he is Guv regardless of the indictment. That is why I would expect an impeachment fairly quickly, there are already calls otu there to begin proceedings. I would also expect any impeachment to be fairly quick and bi-partisan, i'd bet they could be done with it before the weeklend if they put their minds to it. The only thing that could hold it up would be if impeachment is procedurally cumbersome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris_H_2 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I think he still has all the privledges and powers of the office as long as he is Guv regardless of the indictment. That is why I would expect an impeachment fairly quickly, there are already calls otu there to begin proceedings. I would also expect any impeachment to be fairly quick and bi-partisan, i'd bet they could be done with it before the weeklend if they put their minds to it. The only thing that could hold it up would be if impeachment is procedurally cumbersome. You mean like Emil Jones refusing to call a vote in the Senate like he did with the recall measure to get his pay raise? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 After watching Detroit politics implode under multiple mayoral corruption scandals*, it's refreshing to see it happen somewhere else ... and at the state level. * - I think they've only scratched the surface of all the twisted shit Kwame Kilpatrick was mixed up in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 This news clip suggests that Rahm Emanuel may have brought Blago down. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPlWht42enQ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 OK. I've scanned the tube on this thing for a news cycle. I was somewhat aware of the troubles of this guy, but if the allegations turn out to be true... it's truly a mind blower. Is it a case of gargantuan-sized cojones, bat-shit insanity, or both? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Did he put the seat up for sale on ebay or craigslist? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 My heart is in Chicago! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
miss jayne Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 OK. I've scanned the tube on this thing for a news cycle. I was somewhat aware of the troubles of this guy, but if the allegations turn out to be true... it's truly a mind blower. Is it a case of gargantuan-sized cojones, bat-shit insanity, or both? Well, MB, here is a blog about this guys astrology that seems to answer your question. http://blog.beliefnet.com/astrologicalmusings/ fascinating stuff: "His faith in himself as well as his sense of personal protection from harm is often so ingrained that he may be willing and eager to attempt anything, disregarding impossible odds, in order to fulfill his goals and objectives." Of course I think Louie B summed it up with the Daley's using power vs money. It seems to me that the union/power thing has always been the "way it works" in Chicago. (Which is my current favorite city to visit by the way!) I remember there always being roads under construction even if they had just been redone being explained as "political pay back for the unions" during the 80's in Chicago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Today is Blago's birthday Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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ShuckOwens Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I can't believe I voted for this douche...twice.Ouch. I had to chuckle at an MSNBC report last night recounting the "...shocking allegations". Is this not simply Chicago politics as normal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 No, not at all. Most Chicago corruption is power trading, not straight up asking for money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShuckOwens Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 "Man is conceived in sin and born in corruption." - Willie Stark (Broderick Crawford- All the King's Men - 1949) I guess the more things change, the more they stay the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 We need to give Patrick Fitzgerald a medal. He's totally like Harvey Dent, pre-Two Face. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
isadorah Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 if they make a movie about this, Sean Astin should play Blago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Edie Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I voted for the douchebag twice as well -- but the last time (2006) was only so whoever became the dem nominee would have help here in IL. I had no idea that it would be Obama and that he would basically ostracize Blago. Thank God. Next time, I will not be so cowed. Blago has done little for the state besides giving senior citizen free access to public transportation, though you could argue that it is not good for the transportation system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I lived in California for a lot of Blagojevich's term, and I had Illinois friends make fun of us electing Arnold for governor. Yesterday, my California friends contacted me to make fun of my Illinois governor. sigh... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I voted for the douchebag twice as well -- but the last time (2006) was only so whoever became the dem nominee would have help here in IL. I had no idea that it would be Obama and that he would basically ostracize Blago. Thank God. Next time, I will not be so cowed. Blago has done little for the state besides giving senior citizen free access to public transportation, though you could argue that it is not good for the transportation system.He was a big backer of KidCare, which was a big deal for me personally and is still a big deal to me ideologically. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Edie Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 OK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Well, if we are listing the few good things he's done for the state, I think that health care for kids is a good one. That's all. Doesn't mean he isn't guilty or a bad governor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 can any of us ignore Blago's taint? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 There is no doubt in my mind that Obama had less than zero to do with this mess, but he simply doesn't need this distraction at this time WASHINGTON Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 can any of us ignore Blago's taint?I'm sure as hell going to try. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Two things I have to say: I finally know how that dude's name is pronounced, and I am glad Eliot Spitzer is no longer The Stupidest Governor in America. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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