Panther Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 says the fact that Obama has been so well recived creates the oppurtunity for a new world order.remeber way back in 08 when I posted that thread new world order real or imagined? well apparently Kissenger agrees with me that it is a real threat slash idea.so Im not saying you all were wrong Im just saying kissenger is with me on this one, except that I hope he and his ilk fail.Oh and some of you were laughing saying the words new world order don't mean anything together didnt care about the video clip of bil clinton saying in. okay. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD3BqK-9ZiU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Henry Kissenger Loves CrisisIs this a new reality show on VH1? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NightOfJoy Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Kissenger = war criminal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 You do realize the term new world order doesn't strictly apply to loony conspiracy theories, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. (hristine Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 The New World Order has caused PANTHER to change his name. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 For what it is worth, Kissinger also agrees that daughters leaves their dads to marry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Henry Kissenger Loves CrisisIs this a new reality show on VH1? I hope they get "Rabbit" from Real Chance of Love, she's the hot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Henry Kissinger. . That man has never drank a Duff in his life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 You do realize the term new world order doesn't strictly apply to loony conspiracy theories, right? yes correct for example wikipedia has both of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_world_orderhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Ord...spiracy_theory) but wait what are they both saying, one world socailist goverment and that is clear.you are correct in some circles the new world order is a brilliant idea that scholars discuss and in some its a conspiracy theory that dosent exist.Now that is funny, you know last week I was watching this show on TVO its like the canadian PBS and they had a havard professor and a student of Henry Kissenger talking about the benefits of a New World Order. So what am I to think. so tell great mind what does the term New World Order apply to, because as I see it there is but one defineition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 You do realize the term new world order doesn't strictly apply to loony conspiracy theories, right?That's not what the thread subject says ... it says "new word order." If there's a chance for a new word order, I'm all for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 That's not what the thread subject says ... it says "new word order." If there's a chance for a new word order, I'm all for it. I type to fast Quote Link to post Share on other sites
myboyblue Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I type to fast Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 yes correct for example wikipedia has both of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_world_orderhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Ord...spiracy_theory) but wait what are they both saying, one world socailist goverment and that is clear.you are correct in some circles the new world order is a brilliant idea that scholars discuss and in some its a conspiracy theory that dosent exist.Now that is funny, you know last week I was watching this show on TVO its like the canadian PBS and they had a havard professor and a student of Henry Kissenger talking about the benefits of a New World Order. So what am I to think. so tell great mind what does the term New World Order apply to, because as I see it there is but one defineition.Please tell me how you divine singular socialist government from the first link. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 so tell great mind what does the term New World Order apply to, because as I see it there is but one defineition. It applies to nutbag conspiracy theorists of all stripes, but mostly those folks who cherish their leather bound The Illuminatus Trilogy boxed set above all else Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Ewige blumenkraft! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 Please tell me how you divine singular socialist government from the first link. everything in their points to one world goverment maybe I shouldn't have used the word socialist but from my reasearch I don't see how it would work under any other type of system. The most recent usage of the phrase came from United Kingdom Prime Minister Gordon Brown, who called for a "new world order" in a 2007 speech in New Delhi, to reflect the rise of Asia and growing concerns over global warming and finance. Brown said the new world order should incorporate a better representation of "the biggest shift in the balance of economic power in the world in two centuries." He then went on, "To succeed now, the post-war rules of the game and the post-war international institutions -- fit for the Cold War and a world of just 50 states -- must be radically reformed to fit our world of globalisation."[36] He also called for the revamping of post-war global institutions including the World Bank, G8 and International Monetary Fund. Other elements of Brown's formulation include spending Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 The Brown text there seems to explicitly say that Asia has more power and importance now and that international institutions (G8, etc.) need to reflect that and respect their growing importance. What does that have to do with a one world government? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 The Brown text there seems to explicitly say that Asia has more power and importance now and that international institutions (G8, etc.) need to reflect that and respect their growing importance. What does that have to do with a one world government? okay so should I post like a thousnad quotes of powerful people threwought history calling for one world goverment shoud I research on behalf of you.Or instead lets keep it simple , above is a video of henry kissenger speaking about the recent financial crisis and the war crimes of israle(those are my words) but he says this could be positive it creates oppurtunity especially since Obama has been so well recievd all over the world, there is a real chance for a new world order. Now what should I make of this cause clearly you think Im on the wrong track, what do you make of this? or should we just ignore it all together. heres Kissenger on charlie rose talking about a "new international order"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt_2uJDRJuU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 henry kissenger" there is a need for a new world order" so what is a new world order if not world goverment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Glen is like so important. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 okay so should I post like a thousnad quotes of powerful people threwought history calling for one world goverment shoud I research on behalf of youNo. You said the same definition was present in both links. I suggested otherwise and asked for specifics. You pointed to the Blair quote and I provided an alternate interpretation based on the actual text (not to mention the location of the speech). In fact, the rise of Asia is antithetical to a one world government, as eventually there will be more than one superpower (and the US may very well no longer be a superpower itself at some point in the next century). I am not asking you to do research for me. I am only asking you to back up a very specific claim that you made. China and India are not permanent G8 members. India is not on the UN Security Council. Their combined votes in the IMF are less than 1/3rd of the American votes. As they reach parity with the US there will be a power shift in these institutions. There will be a new world order. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 Glen is like so important. I dont get it , i think thats something I said , okay so jules what do you make of what kissenger said are you aware of the potential for world goverment what is you view on this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I dont get it , i think thats something I said , okay so jules what do you make of what kissenger said are you aware of the potential for world goverment what is you view on this.Thanks for asking. I think everything's fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Thanks for asking. I think everything's fine. What about the Chinese taking over? Aren't you in the least bit concerned? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 No. You said the same definition was present in both links. I suggested otherwise and asked for specifics. You pointed to the Blair quote and I provided an alternate interpretation based on the actual text (not to mention the location of the speech). In fact, the rise of Asia is antithetical to a one world government, as eventually there will be more than one superpower (and the US may very well no longer be a superpower itself at some point in the next century). I am not asking you to do research for me. I am only asking you to back up a very specific claim that you made. fine. thats fair, thats your interpretation of what brown said, now there arent any specfic quotes from the second link saying one world goverment but I see it clearly,at the same time don't play dumb you said there are other meaning to the term new wrold order and I suppose you are suggesting that kissenger is not refering to one world goverment, so what is he refering to? come on were on the same team here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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