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I mean, I'll be the first one to rip on my old high school, but this is silly.

And, actually... I might be one to defend Palin's position, but to make this a political hotbutton... :punch

 

Anyway, I don't mean to start a whole political debate here, although one will most-likely ensue anyway. I just wanted to say that this is where I went to high school and it's weird.

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HPHS was practically my alma matter, I went to Deerfield High School and had plenty of friends who went to HPHS, so this hit pretty close to home.

 

When I was in 8th grade, Reagan flew in and gave a speech in the DHS gymnasium. That was a pretty big deal. Secret Service wound up detaining a kid for 8+ hours because he stupidly made a joke about shooting the President.

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Here's the story.

 

"Fightin' words." For better or for worse, those phrases from her will always remind me of the SNL skit about "not sayin' the g's on the enda yer words."

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The press release makes it sound like HPHS is worried about members of their team being the victims of profiling, and I wonder if that's the case. On the other hand, back in my day, HPHS was whiter than Elmer's.

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HPHS was practically my alma matter, I went to Deerfield High School and had plenty of friends who went to HPHS, so this hit pretty close to home.

 

When I was in 8th grade, Reagan flew in and gave a speech in the DHS gymnasium. That was a pretty big deal. Secret Service wounded up detaining a kid for 8+ hours because he stupidly made a joke about shooting the President.

 

what the heck? I went to Deerfield High School. And I work at Highland Park High School. RIGHT NOW!

 

And let me just add, since I do have first hand experience - this school actually has more diversity than you might think, and more than a few of the students I work with are undocumented/illegal immigrants. The village of Highwood, which is right next to Highland Park, has a large Mexican population.

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the team obviously has an illegal alien on its roster.

 

Well, the tournament is in December 2010 - a date for which the team has not been selected. If they had really wanted to go, they could have simply cut ineligible players or required that all kids traveling have what they need to travel (which, by the way, is always policy for school trips). They might have a few minorities whom they worried about getting harrassed, or simply found a better tournament to attend.

 

ETA: Interesting, OTM, and finally.

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This situation reminds me of the book titled The Perfect Game: based on a true story about 9 Mexican kids who go to the United States and get criticized until they beat the very best American little league baseball team in 1957, and have the only perfect game in championship history.

 

It's quite sad actually that we're seemingly afraid (and with good reason we are led to believe) to travel now from Chicago to Arizona. :ohwell

 

They should go and show up with a military brigade to embarrass Arizona.

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Well, the tournament is in December 2010 - a date for which the team has not been selected. If they had really wanted to go, they could have simply cut ineligible players or required that all kids traveling have what they need to travel (which, by the way, is always policy for school trips). They might have a few minorities whom they worried about getting harrassed, or simply found a better tournament to attend.

 

ETA: Interesting, OTM, and finally.

Sorry - meant that to be a joke. I'm assuming their reason is a political protest gesture, like the calls to Selig to move the MLB all-star game out of Arizona, but I was cynically joking that perhaps they're afraid of losing a star player.

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It is pretty ridiculous that the team isn't going to be able to go.

If I had brown skin, I wouldn't want to go to that state. I don't blame the school officials one bit for not wanting to put kids in that situation.

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I know if I were a parent of one of the kids, I would be pretty hacked off. Using high school kids who have worked hard for something as a pawn in a political statement is in pretty poor taste.

 

Plus, the effects of the law are way overblown. Everyone here makes it sound as if they are rounding everyone up of Mexican descent and placing them in internment camps. Thus, this quote from the assistant superintendent rings extremely hollow: “We cannot commit at this time to playing at a venue where some of our students’ safety or liberty might be placed at risk because of state immigration law.”

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You guys all need to relax.

 

I am willing to bet that as of this posting, just like our Attorney General, you all did not read the bill.

 

High School kids traveling on a tourney will not be picked up by police and deported.

 

It is ridiculous.

 

The fear I have from this bill is that a legal citizen will be held at the station for a few hours while their status is clarified.

If they are illegal - well they are um illegal.

 

But using high school students as pawns is disgraceful.

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I am willing to bet that as of this posting, just like our Attorney General, you all did not read the bill.

 

I have, thanks.

 

In addition to the "legal citizens" who might be detained, I sure hope you're also worried about the legal residents who will be harrassed as a result of this new bill. We've already heard of incidents that have been popping up for the past few years in the border states about police and state troopers asking "obviously foreign" people for additional ID. This will lead to nothing good for any non-white, "funny sounding" person

 

As for using high school students as pawns, and for all those people bemoaning the loss of these kids' trip, if you'd read the press release you'd know they've already scheduled a replacement trip. Generally speaking, sports tournaments in warm locations in the winter months are pretty easy to come by, and I highly doubt these kids will cry too much about missing Arizona.

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I have, thanks.

 

In addition to the "legal citizens" who might be detained, I sure hope you're also worried about the legal residents who will be harrassed as a result of this new bill. We've already heard of incidents that have been popping up for the past few years in the border states about police and state troopers asking "obviously foreign" people for additional ID. This will lead to nothing good for any non-white, "funny sounding" person

 

As for using high school students as pawns, and for all those people bemoaning the loss of these kids' trip, if you'd read the press release you'd know they've already scheduled a replacement trip. Generally speaking, sports tournaments in warm locations in the winter months are pretty easy to come by, and I highly doubt these kids will cry too much about missing Arizona.

 

I don't remember reading about a replacement trip. Is that in a new story?

 

Here's a nice quote from a parent in a different story about the canceled trip:

 

"(Fornero's reasoning is) what really disturbs me," Evans said. "I don't know what the value and beliefs of a basketball tournament are. The district has approved student trips to China, South America and the Czech Republic, but somehow Arizona would be more risky for our students?"

 

That story did not mention a replacement trip either.

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I have, thanks.

 

In addition to the "legal citizens" who might be detained, I sure hope you're also worried about the legal residents who will be harrassed as a result of this new bill. We've already heard of incidents that have been popping up for the past few years in the border states about police and state troopers asking "obviously foreign" people for additional ID. This will lead to nothing good for any non-white, "funny sounding" person

 

As for using high school students as pawns, and for all those people bemoaning the loss of these kids' trip, if you'd read the press release you'd know they've already scheduled a replacement trip. Generally speaking, sports tournaments in warm locations in the winter months are pretty easy to come by, and I highly doubt these kids will cry too much about missing Arizona.

 

They are upset, they have been interviewed quite a bit about the matter. The parents are also upset.

 

Federal law requires that legal residents have their papers on them at all times when out in the public, and of course since you read the bill you know Arizona requires the same documentation. So they should abide by the law. While in other countries you don't dare leave your papers at home. You always have them on you.

 

Arizona also quite a struggle the past few years. Phoenix has become the kidnapping capital of America, with more incidents than any other city in the world outside of Mexico City and over 370 cases last year alone. Never mind the home invasions and drug trafficking. (Much of this problem could be solved along with much of the violence if drugs were legalized).

 

It is quite a shame that some will feel harassed when authority figures will be complying with federal and state law when asking legal residents for their papers.

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I don't remember reading about a replacement trip. Is that in a new story?

 

I visited the school's website. If i weren't on my iPod at 5am I'd post the link.

 

As for the other international trips, were these for the basketball team or other students? Sports or academic purposes? As a high school student, I think I would have been able to gauge the relative cultural importance of trips to these other places - what I would get out of visiting them - and grasp that the culture of Arizona can much more easily be obtained on my own time than any one of these other trips.

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Federal law requires that legal residents have their papers on them at all times when out in the public, and of course since you read the bill you know Arizona requires the same documentation. So they should abide by the law. While in other countries you don't dare leave your papers at home. You always have them on you.

 

Wait, what? What federal law is that? As a citizen I need to carry my papers with me at all times?? Cite, please!

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