Moe Tucker "teabagger?" WTF!

[ikol]

She is right about one thing....the government is spending money so that there won't be anything left. Unfortunately the spending on the war in Afganistan is the real culprit here (and Iraq as well) rather than the other issues that the Tea Partiers keep bringing up. What we have spent on these two insane wars could have funded everything socially we ever wanted to do for decades. If this is what she means, she is simply at the wrong demo.

 

LouieB

 

And Social Security and Medicare.

[LouieB]

And Social Security and Medicare.

yea, except we ALL (you included) are going to need and use thost programs. These wars....not so much. (then again I guess there are those folks out there who want these programs discontinued.)

 

Even Mo can now use Social Security and Medicare.

 

LouieB

[Tweedling]

How can those programs be sustained if they are bankrupt? I know people who are getting SS checks and the total amount of checks they have recieved is more than they ever paid out. How can a system like that continue? Not being a smart ass and this may me off topic of Moe but I really see it as a fairy tale. I have no faith in it being around when I'm eligible

[Guest Jules]

yea, except we ALL (you included) are going to need and use thost programs.

God, I hope not.

[embiggen]

Moe Tucker looks like she could use a colonic or something. always has.

[jff]

God, I hope not.

 

You expect us to believe that you're not going to want a social security check after paying social security taxes your entire working life?

 

Or is this one of those hope I die before I get old boasts?

[Guest Jules]

You expect us to believe that you're not going to want a social security check after paying social security taxes your entire working life?

I'll take it, but I hope I don't need it.

[ikol]

yea, except we ALL (you included) are going to need and use thost programs. These wars....not so much. (then again I guess there are those folks out there who want these programs discontinued.)

 

Even Mo can now use Social Security and Medicare.

 

LouieB

 

I'm operating on the assumption that there won't be any Social Security when I retire, and everyone my age should do the same. You can argue that these programs are necessary, but that doesn't change the fact that they are the biggest part of the budget and will drown our nation in debt if the status quo continues. Things have changed somewhat since FDR was President, so why shouldn't his programs? People are living a lot longer and are generally healthier in their old age than they were 70 years ago. I don't see how we can survive as a nation without raising the retirement age.

[Moss]

What's funny about the teabaggers is they are outraged at the spending. But would they support cutting medicaire? Defense spending? Social Security? No way. Clearly without touching those you are not going to accomplish anything. Somehow they seem to think our deficits can be fixed if we quit helping out all those darn minorities that took out too big a loan for their houses and now can't pay, and all those tons of money going to immigrants. And funniest of all is their attitude that the white man can't seem to get a break in this country!

[jff]

And funniest of all is their attitude that the white man can't seem to get a break in this country!

 

There's no time for breaks when you're busy sewing revolutionary war constumes, making signs, and driving your RV to Tea Party rallies.

[jc4prez]

The problem is not in the programs, its in the corrupt people running them. Not to mention what Lou pointed out, the biggest waste of American tax dollars.

[Oil Can Boyd]

Recent interview with Moe Tucker where she clarifies - but doesn't back away from - her position.

[Guest Speed Racer]

Very difficult (really!) to read with all the parenthetical remarks (ejaculations!) that made her sound like she had (HAS) some kind of email writing tourettes.

[jff]

She says this...

 

"In my opinion, as soon as you start name-calling, your opinion is immediately deemed invalid!"

 

...after calling people names numerous times earlier in the interview.

[D-Dogg]

yea, except we ALL (you included) are going to need and use thost programs. These wars....not so much. (then again I guess there are those folks out there who want these programs discontinued.)

 

Even Mo can now use Social Security and Medicare.

 

LouieB

 

I am making every effort NOT to be part of that system.

 

I am taking care of myself and my family, while supporting those who do not.

 

You are welcome.

 

What's funny about the teabaggers is they are outraged at the spending. But would they support cutting medicaire? Defense spending? Social Security? No way. Clearly without touching those you are not going to accomplish anything. Somehow they seem to think our deficits can be fixed if we quit helping out all those darn minorities that took out too big a loan for their houses and now can't pay, and all those tons of money going to immigrants. And funniest of all is their attitude that the white man can't seem to get a break in this country!

 

 

Wow, you really have no idea what you are talking about.

[u2roolz]

Wow, you really have no idea what you are talking about.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGKRSAwrkXo

[D-Dogg]

 

Dude did you read his post? It sounds like he cut and pasted from a Chris Mathews blog.

 

Are you claiming that I am not knowledgeable of the matters in which I write?

 

Edit - I changed the Youtube clip, because I like this song.

[u2roolz]

Dude did you read his post? It sounds like he cut and pasted from a Chris Mathews blog.

 

Are you claiming that I am not knowledgeable of the matters in which I write?

 

It's very easy to hide behind a succinct post that comes across as arrogant.

Why don't you elaborate on it? Let him know how he doesn't know anything.

Copy and paste it from your blog of choice.

 

No one really knows everything. Not even the politicians, as evidenced by recent debates.

[LouieB]

Okay...old Moe is right about one thing...."My anger stems from the unbelievable (criminal!) waste of money on pork and earmarks." The problem is EVERYONE, right, left, middle up and down expect their congresspeople to bring home the pork. The rich want the rich pork, the poor want the poor pork and the middle wants the middle pork.

 

If we stepped back and looked at what real services and programs we really need, it would save money, but no one wants to do that. I mean heaven forbid we should stop spending so much money on the military. And actually I just read that many farmers are having a great year and still get subsidies. The rich refuse to pay more taxes. The only folks who should get what they should get (in my humble commie opinion) are the poor, the poor elderly. the poor infirmed and the disabled. At this point everyone needs to bite the bullet, those with more money need to bit a bigger bullet. We don't need less government, in point of fact no one wants that, we just want less government controlling the things we want. And we still want to get more from the government of what we want to get.

 

No tea partier here though.

 

And an aside to D-Dogg....no matter how much you take care of yourself and your family you and your family still use plenty of government services including roads, schools, etc. etc. We all need basic governmantal services. The minute something goes wrong with health and safety issues people go nuts that the government should have been overseeing things better, whether it is because some crimial assalted you, some insane person killed a relative, you got sick on food or medications or some product, the schools suck, a plane crashes, etc, etc. etc. Or heaven forbid gay people want to get married and have protection or a woman decides to choose to end a pregnancy, then of course government really really needs to control that.....good gawd y'all.....

 

LouieB

[D-Dogg]

It's very easy to hide behind a succinct post that comes across as arrogant.

Why don't you elaborate on it? Let him know how he doesn't know anything.

Copy and paste it from your blog of choice.

 

No one really knows everything. Not even the politicians, as evidenced by recent debates.

 

View my post however you choose, but arrogant it is not. However the cat, in the post he provided, comes off like he is pulling the tag line from some left wing blog that describes an image of the tea party, an image that is provided to the blogger by other left wingers rather than actual factual sexual beliefs of the tea party.

From my understanding Tea Party would like SS to become privatized. They would also like medicare and medicaid to reduce their payouts. They would also like Schools to become restructured (perhaps privatized) to incite competition and reduce the billions and billions that are wasted.

At Tea Party rallies there are many people that represent the minority population. It is not all white people blaming minorities that they gone out and took dem dier jobs.

 

Note I am not a tea party member.

 

 

Okay...old Moe is right about one thing...."My anger stems from the unbelievable (criminal!) waste of money on pork and earmarks." The problem is EVERYONE, right, left, middle up and down expect their congresspeople to bring home the pork. The rich want the rich pork, the poor want the poor pork and the middle wants the middle pork.

 

If we stepped back and looked at what real services and programs we really need, it would save money, but no one wants to do that. I mean heaven forbid we should stop spending so much money on the military. And actually I just read that many farmers are having a great year and still get subsidies. The rich refuse to pay more taxes. The only folks who should get what they should get (in my humble commie opinion) are the poor, the poor elderly. the poor infirmed and the disabled. At this point everyone needs to bite the bullet, those with more money need to bit a bigger bullet. We don't need less government, in point of fact no one wants that, we just want less government controlling the things we want. And we still want to get more from the government of what we want to get.

 

No tea partier here though.

 

And an aside to D-Dogg....no matter how much you take care of yourself and your family you and your family still use plenty of government services including roads, schools, etc. etc. We all need basic governmantal services. The minute something goes wrong with health and safety issues people go nuts that the government should have been overseeing things better, whether it is because some crimial assalted you, some insane person killed a relative, you got sick on food or medications or some product, the schools suck, a plane crashes, etc, etc. etc. Or heaven forbid gay people want to get married and have protection or a woman decides to choose to end a pregnancy, then of course government really really needs to control that.....good gawd y'all.....

 

LouieB

 

I agree with some of your thoughts LouieB. Except I don't want Pork brought home, in fact I don't think the Federal Government should have access to all that money. It leads to extortion and bribery (in the form of pork).

Spending money on the military protects the USA and it's interests and all of their allies now and from future problems.

The farm subsidy issue is a huge scam. Has been for years. Senators and NBA players own farms and they get subsidies!!

The rich pay for 75% of all taxes... Why should they continue to pay more?

The poor should be given the opportunity (a real fair opportunity) to get out of the situation they are in, we should not enable them to settle with what they receive.

I know a hell of a lot of people that want less federal government involvement.

 

Never said I don't benefit from government services such as road, police, fire and schools. But I do not plan on me needing SS or government insurance.

 

" you got sick on food or medications or some product, the schools suck, a plane crashes, etc, etc. etc. Or heaven forbid gay people want to get married and have protection or a woman decides to choose to end a pregnancy, then of course government really really needs to control that....

 

There are ways that most of this can be resolved without the federal government, but it seems that last sentence or two was just a noisy rant.

[M. (hristine]

There are ways that most of this can be resolved without the federal government.

"Let them die and decrease the surplus population."

[M. (hristine]

There are ways that most of this can be resolved without the federal government.

The Libertarians have me up until this point.

 

The problem lies in that there are aspects of society which are not well served by the free market system; where the profit motive is the incorrect approach. If your argument is that charitable organizations fill the gap, why haven't they already done so? Imagine for a minute that the last two Democratic presidents were not as much interested in infiltrating capitalism with socialism, but answering a real need in our society.

 

The medical/insurance system is broken. When the Libertarians can come up with a system that makes more sense than 30k to have a baby, why don't you give me a call.

 

My daughter, a 9th grader in public school, told me last night that her best friend in private school had recieved the HPV vaccine. In the free market this vaccine costs $400. In private scool it is apparently free.

 

Privatize primary schools? Why don't you people go fuck yourselves.

[LouieB]

 

I agree with some of your thoughts LouieB. Except I don't want Pork brought home, in fact I don't think the Federal Government should have access to all that money. It leads to extortion and bribery (in the form of pork).

Spending money on the military protects the USA and it's interests and all of their allies now and from future problems.

The farm subsidy issue is a huge scam. Has been for years. Senators and NBA players own farms and they get subsidies!!

The rich pay for 75% of all taxes... Why should they continue to pay more?

The poor should be given the opportunity (a real fair opportunity) to get out of the situation they are in, we should not enable them to settle with what they receive.

I know a hell of a lot of people that want less federal government involvement.

 

Never said I don't benefit from government services such as road, police, fire and schools. But I do not plan on me needing SS or government insurance.

 

 

 

There are ways that most of this can be resolved without the federal government, but it seems that last sentence or two was just a noisy rant.

How do you KNOW you won't need social security or government insurance. How do you know your kids won't need it?? (How old are they? Just wait until they get older or develop chronic health issues, you MAY feel differently...) No one can see the future, not even you.

 

Pork is non-partisan. Even if YOU don't want it your friends and neighbors not only want it, they expect it. They want it for those pet projects in their districts and will vote out any elected representative who doesn't bring it.

 

I agree with you about pork, I strongly disagree with you about social programs. You just never know. They are there to help folks who need help. Are you against doing this?? It could be you, your family or your friends who ultimately benefit; or maybe you plan to pony up for those folks support, health care, or other essential services when the time comes. Good luck with that.

 

LoueiB

[ih8music]

Survival of the fittest, fuck everyone else. It works magnificently well in the animal kingdom; should be fine for me and my fellow Americans.

 

Some days I wish we could give Libertarians their own state and let them have at it. None of that evil federal funding for bullshit like welfare, public education, medicare/medicaid for the poor/elderly, social security for those who never made enough to sufficiently save for retirement, etc., etc. All those like-minded folks could move there and enjoy that Utopian life of every man for himself. Hell, I'm sure the ones who survive would be happy.

[M. (hristine]

You have just described the premise of Atlas Shrugged.