Doug C Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011/04/06/135151133/what-comes-first-depression-in-teens-or-emo-music Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011/04/06/135151133/what-comes-first-depression-in-teens-or-emo-music I would file this on under Junk Science. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chinese Apple Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 From the Wikipedia entry on "ephebiphobia". "First coined as the 'fear and loathing of teenagers,' today the phenomenon is recognized as the 'inaccurate, exaggerated and sensational characterization of young people' in a range of settings around the world." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sonicshoulder Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Can we punch people in the face if they have strategic holes in the sleeves of their sweatshirt so they can stick their black nail painted thumb through it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted April 7, 2011 Author Share Posted April 7, 2011 I would file this on under Junk Science.Why? The research shows a positive correlation between clinical depression in teens and music listening and a negative correlation between clinical depression in teens and reading. If there is a correlation, then there is a correlation. Remember, correlation is not causation. As in this example that I have used for years in my Advanced Placement psychology classes: Research shows a positive correlation between ice cream sales and drownings. Does eating ice cream cause drownings? Of course not. A 3rd factor or lurking variable is the source of the correlation. Summer temperatures, for example. It is the same in this study. As the lead researcher said, "Pediatrician Brian Primack, at the University of Pittsburgh who was the lead author on the study, says it's more likely that depressed teenagers are turning to music for solace, rather than music being the cause of the mental illness. "They don't feel like doing anything," Primack says. "They don't have a lot of energy, and this is a place where they can go and they don't have to perform." Parents may want to think about depression if a child is retreating into music, Primack says. "Depression is harder to discover in young people compared to older people," he explains. "Sometimes the signs and symptoms in adolescence are different. Maybe there's more irritability as opposed to sadness." Music may be a clue that a child needs help.". I am using this article to review correlational studies with my AP psych students. The timing is perfect as we are engaging in our final review preparations for the exam on 2nd of May. It is far from junk science. It is science. The more warning signs that we have for at-risk teens, the better. I wouldn't automatically assume that my music-loving teen was depressed, hell I was a music-loving teen and was not depressed. I would add it to my checklist and go from there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I can safely say I found solace in music as a depressed teen. But I also know Nickelback causes me to be depressed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Why? The research shows a positive correlation between clinical depression in teens and music listening and a negative correlation between clinical depression in teens and reading. If there is a correlation, then there is a correlation. Remember, correlation is not causation. As in this example that I have used for years in my Advanced Placement psychology classes: Research shows a positive correlation between ice cream sales and drownings. Does eating ice cream cause drownings? Of course not. A 3rd factor or lurking variable is the source of the correlation. Summer temperatures, for example. It is the same in this study. As the lead researcher said, "Pediatrician Brian Primack, at the University of Pittsburgh who was the lead author on the study, says it's more likely that depressed teenagers are turning to music for solace, rather than music being the cause of the mental illness. "They don't feel like doing anything," Primack says. "They don't have a lot of energy, and this is a place where they can go and they don't have to perform." Parents may want to think about depression if a child is retreating into music, Primack says. "Depression is harder to discover in young people compared to older people," he explains. "Sometimes the signs and symptoms in adolescence are different. Maybe there's more irritability as opposed to sadness." Music may be a clue that a child needs help.". I am using this article to review correlational studies with my AP psych students. The timing is perfect as we are engaging in our final review preparations for the exam on 2nd of May. It is far from junk science. It is science. The more warning signs that we have for at-risk teens, the better. I wouldn't automatically assume that my music-loving teen was depressed, hell I was a music-loving teen and was not depressed. I would add it to my checklist and go from there. i would love to be a high school psych teacher! anyway, i've never really understood emo...like what it sounds like. i know some sort of hand bag is involved, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 which one's Justin Bieber?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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