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I honestly have never given a fuck what songs mean. I put no time into thinking about it. When the lyrics are obvious as to meaning, okay. When the lyrics are not obvious, okay. I just enjoy the song or I don't. I never really think about it. I probably don't enjoy music as much as others. Oh well.

 

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This song has been ruined by y'all -- I can't listen to it now without having to consciously dodge thoughts about drugs and sexual deviancy. It was definitely more enjoyable for me as a simple ode to domestic abuse.

 

Sometimes this board is a disservice to Wilco...

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This song has been ruined by y'all -- I can't listen to it now without having to consciously dodge thoughts about drugs and sexual deviancy. It was definitely more enjoyable for me as a simple ode to domestic abuse.

 

Sometimes this board is a disservice to Wilco...

I feel your pain. What started as a new poster's sincere attempt at digging into the meaning of a song with enigmatic lyrics turned into a sarcasm fest about girls with big boobs and heroin. Heavy lid, indeed. Hopefully the song isn't really ruined for you, Chinese Apple. It's one of their prettiest, IMO.

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Well, to quote Pogo, "they is us." This message board is what we want it to be. I try not to take the bait when the trolls post stuff that's just snarky and mean. It's odd that interminable--and ultimately pointless--political discussions are more interesting to most of our members than sincere discussion of Jeff Tweedy's songs. We can choose what we want to read and respond to.

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I may have been over-confident in my own ability to filter out some of the sillier things I read on this thread. But seriously I cannot listen to that song now. It came up on random shuffle today and i had to skip.

 

I think there is something insidious about reading verses hearing something in conversation because reading is done in your own minds voice. I hope I can restore the song after enough time passes, or maybe if I get to hear it played live in the near future. (Going to all three Italian shows in October. Yay!)

 

Best case scenario would be if Jeff intros the song and says for certain it is not about jugs or drugs!

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I may have been over-confident in my own ability to filter out some of the sillier things I read on this thread. But seriously I cannot listen to that song now.

 

Have you tried not listening to it seriously?

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I may have been over-confident in my own ability to filter out some of the sillier things I read on this thread. But seriously I cannot listen to that song now. It came up on random shuffle today and i had to skip.

 

I think there is something insidious about reading verses hearing something in conversation because reading is done in your own minds voice. I hope I can restore the song after enough time passes, or maybe if I get to hear it played live in the near future. (Going to all three Italian shows in October. Yay!)

 

Best case scenario would be if Jeff intros the song and says for certain it is not about jugs or drugs!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6cxNR9ML8k

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Of course, my dear. All in good fun. No hard feelings. I'm obsessing over another song today.

 

And apologies if I offended with my rude junior high innuendos about probing annals of the mind, etc. Don't know what came over me. I'm just in here hiding from an impending deadline.

 

(I think I need to pay my therapist 90 dollars to talk about my compulsion to always have the last word...)

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OP's first mistake was not reading the board and understanding that the yuck monkeys were getting restless.

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